Thursday, May 21, 2009
Yesterday posting of mine................
good luck all
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
Tomorrow I am out the whole day......................
Today result...................................
Tennis Showing 1 - 15 of 15 markets of 563 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Johansson v Cohen Aloro : Match Odds 19-May-09 15:45 19-May-09 21:07 18.25
Tennis / Soderling v Querrey : Match Odds 19-May-09 18:00 19-May-09 19:28 230.88
Tennis / Kudryavtseva v Dechy : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:30 19-May-09 18:55 -73.43
Tennis / U Radwanska v Koryttseva : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:30 19-May-09 18:36 -13.69
Tennis / Chela v Gicquel : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:15 19-May-09 17:20 -131.05
Tennis / Santoro v Hernandez : Match Odds 19-May-09 15:30 19-May-09 17:12 311.69
Tennis / Hantuchova v Llagostera Vives : Match Odds 19-May-09 13:15 19-May-09 16:14 150.06
Tennis / Koubek v Petzschner : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:15 19-May-09 15:55 75.60
Tennis / Capdeville v Junqueira : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:15 19-May-09 15:46 -810.60
Tennis / Simon v Schuettler : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:00 19-May-09 15:42 -600.00
Tennis / Benneteau v Sela : Match Odds 19-May-09 13:00 19-May-09 14:33 303.54
Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Wickmayer : Match Odds 19-May-09 12:00 19-May-09 14:29 20.43
Tennis / Lepchenko v Parmentier : Match Odds 19-May-09 12:00 19-May-09 14:22 -600.00
Tennis / Ani v Yakimova : Match Odds 19-May-09 12:00 19-May-09 14:18 207.79
Tennis / Dokic v Olaru : Match Odds 19-May-09 12:00 19-May-09 13:49 -600.00
Tennis: -USD7,684.31 Total P&L: -USD7,684.31
All results of today............................
Lepchenko = loser :(
M.Garrigues = scratch trade 2nd set
Dokic = loser :(
Benneteau = winner
Simon = loser :(
Hantuchova = winner
Koubek = scratch trade 1st set TB
Capdeville = loser :(
Chela = scratch trade 1st set 5-6
Hernandez = winner
Dechy = scratch trade 2nd set
Koryttseva = scratch trade 2nd set
Johansson = scratch trade 1st set 5-4
Soderling = winner
Johansson only partly fill............................
Yakimova, Lepchenko, M.Garrigues............................
Yakimova 1.36
Lepchenko 1.67
M.Garrigues 1.53
Monday, May 18, 2009
Today result.......................
Tennis Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets of 548 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Lu v Calleri : Match Odds 18-May-09 15:30 18-May-09 21:00 15.17
Tennis / Bellucci v Koellerer : Match Odds 18-May-09 17:30 18-May-09 19:33 -833.98
Tennis / Wozniak v Goerges : Match Odds 18-May-09 15:45 18-May-09 19:23 -600.00
Tennis / Rezai v Bammer : Match Odds 18-May-09 14:30 18-May-09 19:06 329.00
Tennis / Garbin v Sharapova : Match Odds 18-May-09 15:15 18-May-09 19:05 34.86
Tennis / Hernych v A Beck : Match Odds 18-May-09 14:15 18-May-09 17:20 1.72
Tennis / Peng v Glatch : Match Odds 18-May-09 13:00 18-May-09 15:36 -21.75
Tennis / Granollers v Gabashvili : Match Odds 18-May-09 13:00 18-May-09 15:35 0.00
Tennis / Keothavong v Mattek Sands : Match Odds 18-May-09 13:15 18-May-09 15:24 -168.80
Tennis: -USD6,173.78 Total P&L: -USD6,173.78
All results of today.................
Granolers = scratch trade 1st set TB
Mattek Sands = scratch trade 2nd set TB
Beck = scratch trade 2nd set
Sharapova = scratch trade 3rd set
Wozniak = loser :(
Rezai = winner
Bellucci = loser :(
Calleri = scratch trade 2nd set
Granollers, Peng , Mattek Sands......................
Granollers 1.73
Peng 1.33
Mattek Sands 1.61
Sunday, May 17, 2009
Today result..............................
Tennis Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets of 539 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Simon v Soderling : Match Odds 17-May-09 17:00 17-May-09 20:11 38.75
Tennis / Nadal v Federer : Match Odds 17-May-09 17:00 17-May-09 18:46 -600.00
Tennis / Safina v Wozniacki : Match Odds 17-May-09 14:30 17-May-09 16:30 242.72
Tennis / Schuettler v Querrey : Match Odds 17-May-09 13:00 17-May-09 15:37 -21.15
Tennis / Korolev v Seppi : Match Odds 17-May-09 13:00 17-May-09 15:21 -600.00
Tennis / Phau v Garcia Lopez : Match Odds 17-May-09 13:00 17-May-09 15:07 432.90
Profit and Loss is shown net of commission.
Tennis: -USD4,930.00 Total P&L: -USD4,930.00
All results of today.....................
Querry = scratch trade 2nd set
Seppi = loser :(
Safina = winner
Nadal = loser :(
Simon = scratch trade 2nd set
GG Lopez, Querry, Seppi ........................................
GG Lopez 1.75
Querry 1.47
Seppi 1.52
Saturday, May 16, 2009
Today result.................................
Tennis Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets of 533 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Del Potro v Federer : Match Odds 16-May-09 21:00 16-May-09 23:30 253.97
Tennis / Safina v Schnyder : Match Odds 16-May-09 14:00 16-May-09 15:46 138.53
Tennis / Mauresmo v Wozniacki : Match Odds 16-May-09 12:00 16-May-09 14:10 0.32
Tennis: -USD4,423.22 Total P&L: -USD4,423.22
All rsults of today..........................................
Safina = winner
Federer = winner
Yesterday result..............................
Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 530 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Del Potro v Murray : Match Odds 15-May-09 22:15 16-May-09 01:37 -600.00
Tennis / Jankovic v Schnyder : Match Odds 15-May-09 19:30 15-May-09 21:28 -600.00
Tennis / Safina v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 15-May-09 17:00 15-May-09 19:18 132.76
Tennis / Szavay v Mauresmo : Match Odds 15-May-09 14:00 15-May-09 16:18 -37.98
Tennis: -USD4,816.04 Total P&L: -USD4,816.04
All resultas of today............................
Safina = winner
Jankovic = loser :(
Murray = loser :(
Friday, May 15, 2009
Thursday, May 14, 2009
Today result..............................
Tennis Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets of 526 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Monaco v Verdasco : Match Odds 14-May-09 21:00 14-May-09 23:05 329.00
Tennis / Ljubicic v Simon : Match Odds 14-May-09 19:00 14-May-09 21:31 -600.00
Tennis / Kleybanova v Wozniacki : Match Odds 14-May-09 18:30 14-May-09 20:23 224.16
Tennis / Del Potro v Wawrinka : Match Odds 14-May-09 13:00 14-May-09 16:08 8.17
Tennis / Jankovic v Vesnina : Match Odds 14-May-09 14:00 14-May-09 15:32 138.53
Tennis / Robredo v Murray : Match Odds 14-May-09 13:00 14-May-09 14:59 196.25
Tennis / Chakvetadze v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 14-May-09 11:00 14-May-09 12:50 -79.23
Tennis: -USD3,710.82 Total P&L: -USD3,710.82
All results of today...............
Del Potro = scratch trade 2nd set
Murray = winner
Jankovic = winner
Wozniacki = winner
Simon = loser :(
Verdasco = winner
Wednesday, May 13, 2009
Today result......................
Tennis Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets of 519 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Safina v Li : Match Odds 13-May-09 21:00 13-May-09 23:04 173.16
Tennis / Mauresmo v Dementieva : Match Odds 13-May-09 18:30 13-May-09 20:48 -43.06
Tennis / Ferrer v Monaco : Match Odds 13-May-09 16:45 13-May-09 20:16 -57.36
Tennis / Schnyder v Petrova : Match Odds 13-May-09 15:15 13-May-09 18:37 -140.16
Tennis / Blake v Karlovic : Match Odds 13-May-09 15:30 13-May-09 18:25 -3.57
Tennis / Kohlschreiber v Cilic : Match Odds 13-May-09 14:15 13-May-09 18:21 -78.89
Tennis / Fognini v Simon : Match Odds 13-May-09 14:15 13-May-09 15:57 196.25
Tennis / Seppi v Querrey : Match Odds 13-May-09 13:00 13-May-09 15:15 -26.53
Tennis / Dushevina v Schiavone : Match Odds 13-May-09 12:00 13-May-09 14:29 -150.00
Tennis / Del Potro v Berdych : Match Odds 13-May-09 13:00 13-May-09 14:23 324.74
Tennis: -USD3,927.70 Total P&L: -USD3,927.70
All results of today......................
Del Potro = winner 6-2 4-1 and Berdych retired
Seppi = scratch trade 2nd set
Simon = winner
Cilic = scratch trade 2nd set
Petrova = scratch trade 2nd set
Blake = scratch trade 1st set TB
Dementieva = 2nd set
Ferrer = scratch trade 2nd set
Safina = winner
Very interesting idea from Lily from the BF forum.............
12 May 13:03
A useful thread for promoting the obvious benefit of paper trading new stategies. Credit to you for keeping the running total going, unlike Rome's thread where the reader has to do their own analysis to discover his losses.
I've only skimmed through the thread but it appears you believe your edge lies within your exit strategy - have you done any analysis to see what your overall position would be had you not placed any pre-match bets and only placed your exit bets?
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
Today result..........................
Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 509 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Keothavong v Safarova : Match Odds 12-May-09 18:00 12-May-09 22:46 173.16
Tennis / Zheng v Mauresmo : Match Odds 12-May-09 17:45 12-May-09 21:10 -258.13
Tennis / Tsonga v Ljubicic : Match Odds 12-May-09 15:30 12-May-09 20:11 22.52
Tennis / Jankovic v Hantuchova : Match Odds 12-May-09 17:00 12-May-09 19:49 150.07
Tennis / Karlovic v Benneteau : Match Odds 12-May-09 15:30 12-May-09 19:43 26.09
Tennis / Blake v Hansecu : Match Odds 12-May-09 16:30 12-May-09 19:17 380.95
Tennis / Ferrero v Verdasco : Match Odds 12-May-09 14:15 12-May-09 17:38 173.16
Tennis / Garcia Lopez v Berdych : Match Odds 12-May-09 14:15 12-May-09 17:10 196.25
Tennis / Chardy v Acasuso : Match Odds 12-May-09 14:15 12-May-09 16:49 398.27
Tennis / Robredo v Fish : Match Odds 12-May-09 13:00 12-May-09 15:26 -31.80
Tennis / Mathieu v Fognini : Match Odds 12-May-09 13:00 12-May-09 15:14 2.44
Tennis / Seppi v Schwank : Match Odds 12-May-09 13:00 12-May-09 15:00 340.55
Tennis / Rezai v Szavay : Match Odds 12-May-09 12:00 12-May-09 14:27 16.59
Tennis / Kvitova v Schiavone : Match Odds 12-May-09 11:00 12-May-09 12:27 253.97
Tennis: -USD4,122.28 Total P&L: -USD4,122.28
All results of today..........................
Szavay = scratch trade 2nd set
Robredo = scratch trade 2nd set
Mathieu = scratch trade 1st set TB he retired in 3rd
Seppi = winner
Berdych = winner
Verdasco = winner
Chardy = winner
Karlovic = scratch trade 1st set 3-3 I didn't like the prematch drift
Blake = winner
Jankovic = winner
Tsonga = scratch trade 2nd set
Zheng = scratch trade with little red 2nd set
Safarova = winner
Chardy , Verdasco , Berdych...............................
I backed
Chardy 1.69
Verdasco 1.30
Berdych 1.34
Monday, May 11, 2009
Today result......................................
Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 495 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Stosur v Chakvetadze : Match Odds 11-May-09 19:00 11-May-09 23:34 -41.26
Tennis / F Lopez v Monaco : Match Odds 11-May-09 21:00 11-May-09 23:21 317.46
Tennis / Kohlschreiber v Almagro : Match Odds 11-May-09 17:45 11-May-09 21:03 -804.00
Tennis / Schiavone v S Williams : Match Odds 11-May-09 15:30 11-May-09 18:34 -600.00
Tennis / Groenefeld v Petrova : Match Odds 11-May-09 13:30 11-May-09 17:16 -60.42
Tennis / Tsonga v Safin : Match Odds 11-May-09 14:15 11-May-09 16:39 369.42
Tennis / Hantuchova v Dulko : Match Odds 11-May-09 12:15 11-May-09 16:33 -3.30
Tennis / Razzano v Vesnina : Match Odds 11-May-09 13:15 11-May-09 15:44 386.72
Tennis / Mauresmo v Sugiyama : Match Odds 11-May-09 14:00 11-May-09 15:25 144.30
Tennis / Lepchenko v Rybarikova : Match Odds 11-May-09 11:00 11-May-09 14:37 0.11
Tennis / Ljubicic v Gabashvili : Match Odds 11-May-09 12:15 11-May-09 14:20 311.68
Tennis / Pavlyuchenkova v Peng : Match Odds 11-May-09 12:00 11-May-09 13:52 -600.00
Tennis / Vinci v Martinez Sanchez : Match Odds 11-May-09 11:00 11-May-09 13:03 30.78
Tennis / Hernandez v Vassallo Arguello : Match Odds 11-May-09 11:00 11-May-09 12:45 305.91
Tennis: -USD5,966.37 Total P&L: -USD5,966.37
list of the retirements against me...........................
Youzhny
Llodra
Czink
Lisicki
Kanepi
Stepanek
S.Williams
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5200- :(
All results of today......................2 retirements......
Rybarikova = scratch trade 1st set TB
Hernandez = winner
Pavlyuchenkova = loser :(
Ljubicic = winner
Soderling = canceled because he played vs Navarro instead Andreev
Mauresmo = winner
Vesnina = winner
Petrova = scratch trade 2nd set
Dulko = scratch trade 1st set TB
Tsonga = winner
S.Williams = loser 4-6 retired :(
Wozniacki = no bet because Peer retired in 1st set :(
Almagro = loser :(
Monaco = winner
Chakvedatze = scratch trade 2nd set
M.Sanchez, Rybarikova, Hernandez ......................
M.Sanchez 1.58
Rybarikova 1.68
Hernandez 1.53
Sunday, May 10, 2009
Today result.............................
Tennis Showing 1 - 16 of 16 markets of 481 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Groenefeld v Niculescu : Match Odds 10-May-09 15:15 10-May-09 23:00 188.59
Tennis / Kunitsyn v Ferrero : Match Odds 10-May-09 16:45 10-May-09 22:47 -106.01
Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Dushevina : Match Odds 10-May-09 16:30 10-May-09 22:20 -600.00
Tennis / Querrey v Stepanek : Match Odds 10-May-09 16:30 10-May-09 21:18 -600.01
Tennis / Szavay v Pennetta : Match Odds 10-May-09 15:15 10-May-09 20:16 -600.00
Tennis / Montanes v Blake : Match Odds 10-May-09 17:00 10-May-09 19:21 -600.00
Tennis / Youzhny v Berdych : Match Odds 10-May-09 16:00 10-May-09 19:01 -36.67
Tennis / Robredo v Kiefer : Match Odds 10-May-09 14:15 10-May-09 18:50 -23.07
Tennis / Schnyder v Errani : Match Odds 10-May-09 14:00 10-May-09 17:24 403.62
Tennis / Vesnina v Cornet : Match Odds 10-May-09 14:00 10-May-09 17:08 397.85
Tennis / Suarez Navarro v Li : Match Odds 10-May-09 13:00 10-May-09 15:36 20.86
Tennis / Rezai v Pironkova : Match Odds 10-May-09 14:00 10-May-09 15:36 409.39
Tennis / Garcia Lopez v Chela : Match Odds 10-May-09 12:45 10-May-09 15:06 361.29
Tennis / A Radwanska v Stosur : Match Odds 10-May-09 12:45 10-May-09 14:36 -600.00
Tennis / Safarova v Kanepi : Match Odds 10-May-09 11:30 10-May-09 13:07 -600.00
Tennis / Haas v Andujar : Match Odds 10-May-09 11:30 10-May-09 13:04 225.45
Tennis: -USD5,723.77 Total P&L: -USD5,723.77
All results of today............2 retirements................
Bammer = scratch retired in 1st set
Kanepi = loser retired 2-7 3-2 :(
A.Radwanska = loser :(
Na Li = scratch trade 2nd set
Chela = winner
Rezai = winner
Vesnina = winner
Schnyder = winner
Berdych = scratch trade 2nd set
Groenefeld = winner
Robredo = scratch trade 2nd set
Pennetta = loser :(
Blake = loser :(
Stepanek = loser by retirement :(
Ferrero = scratch trade 3rd set
M.Garrigues = loser :(
Saturday, May 9, 2009
Today result......................................
Tennis Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets of 465 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Montanes v Capdeville : Match Odds 09-May-09 16:55 09-May-09 22:21 276.94
Tennis / Zheng v Kirilenko : Match Odds 09-May-09 16:30 09-May-09 22:04 271.00
Tennis / Benesova v Petrova : Match Odds 09-May-09 16:30 09-May-09 20:55 260.23
Tennis / Bartoli v Wozniak : Match Odds 09-May-09 15:15 09-May-09 19:39 -600.00
Tennis / Safina v Kuznetsova : Match Odds 09-May-09 17:00 09-May-09 18:41 -846.01
Tennis / Berdych v Chardy : Match Odds 09-May-09 15:15 09-May-09 18:21 -23.87
Tennis / Soler Espinosa v Kleybanova : Match Odds 09-May-09 14:00 09-May-09 17:19 144.16
Tennis / Kubot v Karlovic : Match Odds 09-May-09 15:00 09-May-09 16:56 -600.00
Tennis / Wickmayer v Makarova : Match Odds 09-May-09 14:45 09-May-09 16:19 -846.00
Tennis / Brands v Youzhny : Match Odds 09-May-09 14:00 09-May-09 16:09 -0.01
Tennis: -USD3,965.06 Total P&L: -USD3,965.06
All results of the day.................retirement.........
Makarova = loser :(
Karlovic = loser :(
Kleybanova = winner
Berdych = scratch trade 3rd set
Kutznetsova = loser :(
Montanes = winner
Bartoli = loser :(
Petrova = winner by retirement 6-0 2-1
Zheng = winner
Another posting from ebasson61..................
09 May 12:55
Morning horselover
I hope you don't think I was being too critical, as I think you deserve a lot of credit for the discipline and patience you have shown throughout this thread.I agree that all strategies will have ups and downs and that we shouldn't be diverted from a full and thorough test of a system simply if we have a couple of downturns.
You mention the bet size, but I don't think that's an issue really. If you have an edge, then you can succeed with a £2 bet or a £20,000 bet.You ask how much you should be in the black by now, but I don't think that's a valid question. Personally, I always assess my strike rate against the average odds I'm getting (which I accept is not always easy to do if trading).
For example, to gauge the minimum odds you require based on your current win rate would be:(loss rate / win rate) + commission rate + 1Obviously to gauge the minimum win rate required based on your average odds is the inverse.
Anyway, GL to you.
Question from ebasson61 ................................
Hi Horselover
You seem like a serious bettor judging by the number of bets you have placed during this entire thread, but I'm wondering what the point of all this is.If it's just a bit of fun, then fair enough.
But if you're in this to actually make some money, then how long have you estimated it will be before you start seeing any profit? It's been three months now and I think during that entire time you've only been in the black for a couple of days.
I suppose the question is: How long does it take before deciding whether a system is working or not?
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my answer
good morning ebasson61
thanks for the question, because you have a point there. but first I have to correct you, I started here 2 month ago. and yes I want to make money here.
I am not a stats guy, but my opinion is that even if I am at the end of a year not in the black and only a low percentage in the red, I think it still doesnt tell me that the strategy is not good.
one guy said that at the end I will make money for betfair. so what? everyone is giving betfair their part :)
the difference to betfair and a casino in Las Vegas is, that betfair will not give me any complimentary.
if I will have a steady downmove, then its time to stop and rethink the startegy. imho, there is no steady downmove yet that I can see.
I think the strategy is a slow upmove one.
there is no strategy without downmoves, even if they are for a few month. sure there are the arbers, courtsiders etc.
and as I said before, even if I am at the end even, comission paid I think that is very good for me. I am sure there are many out there with big losses that would wish to be in this situation not losing a penny.
I am already retired. if I lose my bank, I have another bank to start again if I want. this is a big advantage, not to make a living out of the betting. but for sure it is nicer to succeed.
I am still very confident that I will be in the black at the end. and please understand that I could do it also with 6000 instead of 600 as an initial bet. then even a small win will be a big win moneywise. I will try to go steady up with my initial betting size, as soon I will reach a given plus.
Discipline, Patience and Balls thats what is needed :)
and if all the other people here in this thread are right at the end that I will lose the bank roll with my strategy, I will still have to eat and lost my money and not someone else money.
so lets wait and see and please have patience with me
best of luck
Friday, May 8, 2009
Today result..........................
Tennis Showing 1 - 11 of 11 markets of 455 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Chardy v Cilic : Match Odds 08-May-09 16:45 08-May-09 20:41 -80.97
Tennis / Simon v Montanes : Match Odds 08-May-09 16:15 08-May-09 20:39 -56.36
Tennis / Safina v V Williams : Match Odds 08-May-09 17:00 08-May-09 20:22 -600.00
Tennis / Seppi v Daniel : Match Odds 08-May-09 16:15 08-May-09 18:59 236.16
Tennis / Hernandez v Capdeville : Match Odds 08-May-09 15:00 08-May-09 17:20 -183.72
Tennis / Cipolla v Karlovic : Match Odds 08-May-09 15:00 08-May-09 16:36 345.60
Tennis / Brands v Starace : Match Odds 08-May-09 14:15 08-May-09 16:26 94.25
Tennis / Kuznetsova v Azarenka : Match Odds 08-May-09 14:30 08-May-09 16:12 259.20
Tennis / Youzhny v Mathieu : Match Odds 08-May-09 13:00 08-May-09 15:27 51.96
Tennis / Vliegen v Kubot : Match Odds 08-May-09 13:00 08-May-09 15:04 19.32
Tennis / Groenefeld v Makarova : Match Odds 08-May-09 13:15 08-May-09 14:28 547.20
Tennis: -USD2,001.50 Total P&L: -USD2,001.50
All results of today......................
Mathieu = scratch trade 2nd set
Makarova = winner
Brands = scratch trade prematch
Kutznetsova = winner
Hernandez = scratch trade 3rd set
Karlovic = winner
V.Williams = loser :(
Seppi = winner
Simon = scratch trade 3rd set
Cilic = scratch trade 3rd set
Brands v Starace................
Brands at 1.71 and greened out at 1.50 prematch
the reason is that I dont bet on Starace if he is fav. now the situation changed and Brands was fav prematch. maybe a fix, who knows. so I took a small green.
Thursday, May 7, 2009
Today result.....................
Tennis: -USD353.39 Total P&L: -USD353.39
Tennis Showing 1 - 13 of 13 markets of 444 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Dabul v Karlovic : Match Odds 07-May-09 21:00 07-May-09 23:00 253.44
Tennis / V Williams v A Radwanska : Match Odds 07-May-09 21:30 07-May-09 22:48 241.92
Tennis / Safina v Martinez-Sanchez : Match Odds 07-May-09 16:30 07-May-09 20:22 -0.01
Tennis / De Bakker v Hewitt : Match Odds 07-May-09 16:35 07-May-09 19:55 144.00
Tennis / Simon v Fognini : Match Odds 07-May-09 18:00 07-May-09 19:26 288.01
Tennis / Serra v Monaco : Match Odds 07-May-09 15:30 07-May-09 18:42 -413.04
Tennis / Clement v Cipolla : Match Odds 07-May-09 15:30 07-May-09 18:22 -600.00
Tennis / Azarenka v Kanepi : Match Odds 07-May-09 15:15 07-May-09 17:43 6.77
Tennis / Gicquel v Blake : Match Odds 07-May-09 15:45 07-May-09 17:21 408.95
Tennis / Benneteau v Brands : Match Odds 07-May-09 14:00 07-May-09 16:26 3.72
Tennis / Daniel v Ljubicic : Match Odds 07-May-09 14:15 07-May-09 16:07 -600.00
Tennis / Kuznetsova v Jankovic : Match Odds 07-May-09 14:00 07-May-09 15:50 512.85
Tennis / Groenefeld v Lisicki : Match Odds 07-May-09 13:00 07-May-09 13:55 -600.00
Tennis: -USD2,634.14 Total P&L: -USD2,634.14
All results of today...............1 retirement........
Kutznetsova = winner
Benneteau = scratch trade 2nd set
Ljubicic = loser :(
Blake = winner
Monaco = loser :(
Azarenka = scratch trade 1st set 4-4 with 8 breaks :(
Clement = loser :(
Simon = winner
Safina = scratch trade end of 2nd set
Hewitt = winner
Karlovic = winner
V.Williams = winner
Problem with Gruss today...................
Seppi no fill.......................................
Wednesday, May 6, 2009
Today result..........................................
Tennis Showing 1 - 8 of 8 markets of 431 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Fish v Navarro : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:30 06-May-09 18:34 240.47
Tennis / Makarova v Czink : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:15 06-May-09 18:17 -28.40
Tennis / Granollers v Troicki : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:30 06-May-09 17:49 236.16
Tennis / A Radwanska v Ivanovic : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:15 06-May-09 17:37 -12.41
Tennis / Kuznetsova v Pennetta : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:15 06-May-09 17:14 -8.51
Tennis / Kohlschreiber v Cilic : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:20 06-May-09 16:55 -768.02
Tennis / Govortsova v Wickmayer : Match Odds 06-May-09 14:00 06-May-09 15:58 -3.71
Tennis / Azarenka v Wozniacki : Match Odds 06-May-09 14:00 06-May-09 15:38 403.20
Tennis: -USD2,280.75 Total P&L: -USD2,280.75
All results of today..........................
Wickmayer = scratch trade end of 2nd set
Andreev = no bet because Andreev retired in 1st set
Kutznetsova = scratch trade 3rd set
Makarova = scratch trade 3rd set
Kohlschreiber = loser :(
Troicki = winner
Ivanovic = scratch trade 3rd set
Fish = winner greened out at 1.03
Makarova ,Kohlschreiber..........................................
Makarova 1.61
Kohlschreiber 1.72
Azarenka , Wickmayer, Andreev.......................
Azarenka 1.70
Wickmayer 1.61
Andreev 1.27
Yesterday result.............................
Tennis Showing 1 - 19 of 19 markets of 423 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / A Radwanska v Rezai : Match Odds 05-May-09 16:45 06-May-09 00:28 -13.85
Tennis / Schiavone v Ivanovic : Match Odds 05-May-09 16:30 06-May-09 00:05 278.27
Tennis / Suarez Navarro v Petrova : Match Odds 05-May-09 15:15 05-May-09 23:31 -39.59
Tennis / Kuznetsova v Hantuchova : Match Odds 05-May-09 17:45 05-May-09 23:24 149.76
Tennis / Bartoli v Martinez Sanchez : Match Odds 05-May-09 15:15 05-May-09 22:44 -31.58
Tennis / Shvedova v Pennetta : Match Odds 05-May-09 15:15 05-May-09 22:20 144.00
Tennis / Monaco v Cuevas : Match Odds 05-May-09 16:45 05-May-09 22:19 144.00
Tennis / Vesnina v Zheng : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:00 05-May-09 21:00 368.60
Tennis / Querrey v Troicki : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:30 05-May-09 18:36 -8.05
Tennis / Navarro v Martin : Match Odds 05-May-09 15:30 05-May-09 18:34 -600.00
Tennis / Daniel v Canas : Match Odds 05-May-09 12:00 05-May-09 17:13 -36.86
Tennis / Peya v Benneteau : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:15 05-May-09 17:09 0.10
Tennis / Fernandez Brugues v Czink : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:15 05-May-09 16:43 230.88
Tennis / Serra v Junqueira : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:00 05-May-09 16:38 52.80
Tennis / Kranjinovic v Granollers : Match Odds 05-May-09 13:15 05-May-09 16:25 0.79
Tennis / Cornet v K Bondarenko : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:00 05-May-09 15:41 -918.00
Tennis / Makarova v Cetkovska : Match Odds 05-May-09 13:00 05-May-09 14:42 403.20
Tennis / Wickmayer v Kvitova : Match Odds 05-May-09 13:00 05-May-09 14:32 -822.00
Tennis / Bovina v Kudryavtseva : Match Odds 05-May-09 13:00 05-May-09 14:30 369.24
Tennis: -USD2,339.53 Total P&L: -USD2,339.53
Tuesday, May 5, 2009
all the results for today...........................
Bovina = winner
Makarova = winner
Kvitova = loser :(
Cornet = loser :(
Zheng = winner
Serra = scratch trade 3rd set
Czink = winner
Troicki = scratch trade 3rd set
Martin = loser :(
Pennetta = winner
Bartoli = scratch trade 2nd set
Monaco = winner
S.Navarro = scratch trade 3rd set
Kutznetsova = winner
A.Radwanska = scratch trade 3rd set
Ivanovic = winner
Canas, Bovina, Makarova, Kvitova...........................
Canas 1.67
Bovina 1.70
Makarova 1.70
Kvitova 1.77
Granollers rollover from yesterday...................
I backed
Granollers 1.37
and scratched the trade out because heavy rain. looks really bad for today, no play imho
Monday, May 4, 2009
Today result..........................
Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 404 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Knapp v Dulko : Match Odds 04-May-09 19:15 04-May-09 20:50 161.28
Tennis / Fish v Gabashvili : Match Odds 04-May-09 15:30 04-May-09 20:00 385.67
Tennis / Chakvetadze v Medina Garrigues : Match Odds 04-May-09 18:00 04-May-09 19:17 -600.00
Tennis / Dechy v Zheng : Match Odds 04-May-09 15:15 04-May-09 18:50 148.91
Tennis / A Radwanska v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 04-May-09 16:30 04-May-09 18:45 144.00
Tennis / Vesnina v Craybas : Match Odds 04-May-09 15:15 04-May-09 18:27 -26.67
Tennis / Andujar v Gicquel : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:15 04-May-09 17:47 14.40
Tennis / Kiefer v Gulbis : Match Odds 04-May-09 15:30 04-May-09 17:32 -600.00
Tennis / Youzhny v Minar : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:15 04-May-09 17:04 322.57
Tennis / Razzano v Rybarikova : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:00 04-May-09 16:44 257.24
Tennis / Cornet v Sugiyama : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:00 04-May-09 15:58 288.00
Tennis / Szavay v Wozniacki : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:00 04-May-09 15:33 195.84
Tennis / Crivoi v Veic : Match Odds 04-May-09 13:00 04-May-09 15:15 40.63
Tennis / Cipolla v Pashanski : Match Odds 04-May-09 13:00 04-May-09 15:12 6.85
Tennis: -USD2,011.24 Total P&L: -USD2,011.24
M.Garrigues, A.Radwanska, Fish, Dulko results...........
A.Radwanska = winner
Fish = winner
Dulko = winner
Granollers back and scratch..............................
Granollers 1.37
and scratched the trade out because heavy rain. looks really bad for today, no play imho
Zheng only partly fill ..................................
Cornet, Razzano, Wozniacki , Youzhny results.........
Razzano = winner
Wozniacki = winner
Youzhny = winner
Sunday, May 3, 2009
Today result..........................
Tennis Showing 1 - 8 of 8 markets of 390 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Mauresmo v Martinez Sanchez : Match Odds 03-May-09 17:15 03-May-09 22:15 -600.00
Tennis / Bartoli v Peng : Match Odds 03-May-09 17:00 03-May-09 19:17 236.16
Tennis / Safina v Kuznetsova : Match Odds 03-May-09 16:45 03-May-09 18:19 9.91
Tennis / Shvedova v Stosur : Match Odds 03-May-09 15:30 03-May-09 18:00 -882.00
Tennis / Dushevina v Hantuchova : Match Odds 03-May-09 14:15 03-May-09 17:54 3.22
Tennis / Safarova v Koryttseva : Match Odds 03-May-09 14:15 03-May-09 17:25 1.52
Tennis / Bammer v Li : Match Odds 03-May-09 13:00 03-May-09 17:00 -600.00
Tennis / Keothavong v Suarez Navarro : Match Odds 03-May-09 13:00 03-May-09 16:20 143.85
Tennis: -USD2,749.96 Total P&L: -USD2,749.96
Hantuchova, Na Li results...............
Na Li = loser :(
Saturday, May 2, 2009
Yesterday result.............................
Tennis Showing 1 - 5 of 5 markets of 382 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Safina v Pennetta : Match Odds 02-May-09 19:30 02-May-09 21:39 172.62
Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Makarova : Match Odds 02-May-09 17:30 02-May-09 18:50 299.21
Tennis / Djokovic v Federer : Match Odds 02-May-09 14:30 02-May-09 18:01 23.73
Tennis / Kuznetsova v Dementieva : Match Odds 02-May-09 15:00 02-May-09 16:20 -888.00
Tennis / Vaidisova v Shvedova : Match Odds 02-May-09 14:15 02-May-09 15:51 -620.47
Tennis: -USD1,062.62 Total P&L: -USD1,062.62
Safina result.........................
the break and price in 3rd set kept me in the match :)
Vaidisova , Djokovic , Dementieva......................
Vaidisova 1.58
Djokovic 1.74
Dementieva 1.77
Yesterday result..........................
Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 377 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Jankovic v Pennetta : Match Odds 01-May-09 19:15 01-May-09 21:24 -600.00
Tennis / Kuznetsova v Dulko : Match Odds 01-May-09 16:15 01-May-09 18:57 316.46
Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Czink : Match Odds 01-May-09 17:15 01-May-09 18:06 258.94
Tennis / Makarova v Kleybanova : Match Odds 01-May-09 16:00 01-May-09 17:14 -864.00
Tennis: -USD49.71 Total P&L: -USD49.71
Friday, May 1, 2009
This was my posting in the Bf forum................
373 initial 600$ trades
turnaround about 250000$
comission paid = about 1800$
7 weeks everyday
my selections are the favs and I try to take as many as I can handle.for example today I had 12 bets, and missed Federer match because I was buisy with trying to scratch 2 matches the same time. I had him on my list, and missed it. just for info.
tomorrow morning I will be out and I don't know when I will be back. it could be I will pause tomorrow. but lets see when I will be back.
now I am asking all the readers please post your opinion on the numbers that I mentioned above. maybe some stats guys? every comment is very much appreciated.
and lets be honest, who thought that I will not lose my bank? I think that everybody was very sceptic and didn't think that I will survive my bankroll. even the guys who supported me with well-meant postings.
I really know that everything can happen, and the next down move is around the corner, but I don't know when and how big it will be, but also the up move could hold many days. remember I bet on the favs and they tend to win a la longue. therefore I repeat myself, that the scratch trades are my winners.
thanks to all the readers and non posters and to the posting guys. it is always a help, even the critics are helpful.
discipline, patience and balls is needed for every strategy.
cheers
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Yesterday result................................
Tennis Showing 1 - 12 of 12 markets of 373 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Pennetta v Petrova : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 21:45 01-May-09 00:46 443.06
Tennis / Gasquet v Verdasco : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 17:45 30-Apr-09 22:46 238.85
Tennis / Jankovic v Lisicki : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 19:15 30-Apr-09 21:58 -16.43
Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Dominguez Lino : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 17:45 30-Apr-09 21:39 -4.77
Tennis / Simon v Zverev : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 16:30 30-Apr-09 20:31 -600.00
Tennis / Kuznetsova v Li : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 16:15 30-Apr-09 19:26 -72.41
Tennis / Del Potro v Wawrinka : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 15:30 30-Apr-09 19:01 -164.81
Tennis / Czink v Hrandecka : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 16:30 30-Apr-09 18:42 350.99
Tennis / Makarova v Domachowska : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 15:15 30-Apr-09 17:21 235.91
Tennis / Szavay v Dementieva : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 15:00 30-Apr-09 16:49 4.56
Tennis / Monaco v Cilic : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 14:00 30-Apr-09 15:47 374.01
Tennis / Hercog v Kleybanova : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 14:00 30-Apr-09 15:40 258.93
Tennis: USD838.89 Total P&L: USD838.89
Wednesday, April 29, 2009
Today result.....................
Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 361 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Gasquet v Gulbis : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 17:45 29-Apr-09 23:38 -132.00
Tennis / Zverev v Mathieu : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 19:00 29-Apr-09 22:07 -600.00
Tennis / Lisicki v Schnyder : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 20:30 29-Apr-09 22:03 253.18
Tennis / Stepanek v F Lopez : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 19:00 29-Apr-09 21:53 437.30
Tennis / Simon v Fognini : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 16:30 29-Apr-09 21:22 -3.97
Tennis / Jankovic v Cibulkova : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 19:15 29-Apr-09 20:38 166.89
Tennis / Youzhny v Wawrinka : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 16:00 29-Apr-09 20:12 -30.88
Tennis / Pennetta v Chakvetadze : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 18:30 29-Apr-09 19:40 201.38
Tennis / Pavlyuchenkova v Czink : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 13:15 29-Apr-09 18:13 -8.33
Tennis / Stepanek v Serra : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 14:45 29-Apr-09 18:07 224.42
Tennis / Mathieu v Ferrer : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 14:45 29-Apr-09 17:43 -63.38
Tennis / Robredo v Kohlschreiber : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 14:00 29-Apr-09 16:20 345.24
Tennis / Soderling v Crivoi : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 14:00 29-Apr-09 15:58 184.14
Tennis / Vinci v Hercog : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 12:00 29-Apr-09 15:14 -600.00
Tennis: -USD209.00 Total P&L: -USD209.00
Jankovic, Stepanek , Lisicki results.....................
Stepanek = winner
Lisicki = winner
Gasquet result.........................
3rd set and Gasquet had the trainer ans 2nd match for him on this day.
Mathieu result....................
winning the first set 6-3 then up 1 break in 2nd set and going to a TB
5-4 up in the TB and losing the TB and 3rd set losing 6-0 :(
I had yesterday the same losing pattern in the Almagro match
I call it a bad beat, but Iam learning :)
Wawrinka, Pennetta , Stepanek results.................
Pennetta = winner
Stepanek = winner
Two rollovers again................................
backed
Stepanek 1.39
Ferrer 1.27
Yesterday result...................
Tennis Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets of 347 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Almagro v Gulbis : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 14:15 29-Apr-09 01:27 -600.00
Tennis / Seppi v Querrey : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 15:15 28-Apr-09 23:17 45.33
Tennis / Zverev v Berdych : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 13:30 28-Apr-09 22:07 -25.70
Tennis / Groenefeld v Dementieva : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 19:15 28-Apr-09 21:27 58.07
Tennis / Soderling v Granollers : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 13:00 28-Apr-09 19:34 345.24
Tennis / Robredo v Safin : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 14:00 28-Apr-09 19:31 -78.44
Tennis / Szavay v Sugiyama : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 15:45 28-Apr-09 19:30 -54.54
Tennis / Wozniak v A Radwanska : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 15:00 28-Apr-09 16:27 149.60
Tennis / Peng v Li : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 13:15 28-Apr-09 14:29 281.95
Tennis: -USD582.99 Total P&L: -USD582.99
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
Two rollovers from yesterday...............................
backed
Soderling 1.60
Robredo 1.33
Monday, April 27, 2009
Today result..........................
Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 338 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Suarez Navarro v Azarenko : Match Odds 27-Apr-09 21:00 27-Apr-09 22:47 184.12
Tennis / Crivoi v Blake : Match Odds 27-Apr-09 15:15 27-Apr-09 17:05 20.93
Tennis / Cipolla v Cilic : Match Odds 27-Apr-09 14:00 27-Apr-09 15:33 230.15
Tennis / Kiefer v Monaco : Match Odds 27-Apr-09 14:00 27-Apr-09 15:28 195.65
Tennis: -USD704.50 Total P&L: -USD704.50
Sunday, April 26, 2009
Today result....................
Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 334 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / 4. Mauresmo v Hantuchova : Match Odds 26-Apr-09 15:15 26-Apr-09 19:52 2.57
Tennis / Ferrero v Zverev : Match Odds 26-Apr-09 14:15 26-Apr-09 18:43 2.88
Tennis / 3. Cornet v Cibulkova : Match Odds 26-Apr-09 14:00 26-Apr-09 17:00 0.99
Tennis / 3. Groenefeld v Zheng : Match Odds 26-Apr-09 12:00 26-Apr-09 13:48 333.73
Tennis: -USD1,335.35 Total P&L: -USD1,335.35
Zheng , Cibulkova, Ferrero results.........................
Cibulkova = scratch trade 3rd set
Ferrero = scratch trade 1st set TB
Schiavone match cancelled.........................
no bet!
Follow up answer from bib regarding the TB..........
You're welcome, yes some research is crucial - I just checked some numbers - one of the players with good tiebreak records - Tsonga went 14-5 this year (8-1 on his favorite indoor surface) while Canas has lost his last 9 tiebreaks. What I mean by this is that a tiebreak isn't really a coin toss, if you take the important factors into consideration, you can shift the coin toss in your favor
Saturday, April 25, 2009
Today result..............................
Tennis Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets of 330 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / 2. Schiavone v Kuznetsova : Match Odds 25-Apr-09 14:15 25-Apr-09 17:13 11.52
Tennis / 1. Lisicki v Zheng : Match Odds 25-Apr-09 13:00 25-Apr-09 15:15 2.45
Tennis / 1. Pennetta v Chakvetadze : Match Odds 25-Apr-09 13:00 25-Apr-09 14:12 253.18
Tennis: -USD1,675.52 Total P&L: -USD1,675.52
I missed the Gonzalez match...................
the Gonzalez back :(
we had visitors, and coming now to the pc and seeing what I missed
3-1 Gonzalez
very good posting from bib in the BF forum regarding the TB..............
25 Apr 10:28
bib,
horselover asking Curlyblues
I forgot one question. what are you thinking about the TB? for me it is like a toss of a coin. sometimes it depends on the players, but in general?
Yes - the tiebreak is quite a sensitive subject and given your exit strategy I can see why you choose to avoid the first set tiebreak if you backed the favorite. Two good indicators as to what the outcome of the tiebreak will be are current form and tiebreak record. Tiebreak record is very important as there are players that are known to play their best in a tiebreak and you will see that the market will stop supporting them even if they are favorite and they go into a first set tiebreak for example. To give some names - Murray, Djokovic, Federer, Tsonga, Roddick, Berdych and a few more.
There are some pitfalls though, as form matters too, for example when Canas was in good form, he would win a lot of tiebreaks but as his level started to drop, he would lose 60-70 percent of the tiebreaks played. Again - it is your job as a punter to check these stats.
my answer
bib,
thanks for your answer and explanation regarding the TB. your explanation supports actually my thinking to take the TB as a coin toss.
even if one could do better in some TB's if he did the research like you are proposing.may I ask if you are familiar with ROI and the numbers that could give some insight?
cheers
Lisicki match partly fill.......................
I got a partly fill only at 1.54 with 96.40 :(
3-0 for Lisicki right now
Friday, April 24, 2009
Today result.....................
Tennis Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets of 327 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Gonzalez v Verdasco : Match Odds 24-Apr-09 17:45 24-Apr-09 20:23 26.07
Tennis / Robredo v Ferrer : Match Odds 24-Apr-09 15:30 24-Apr-09 17:40 374.01
Tennis: -USD1,942.67 Total P&L: -USD1,942.67
Interesting posting from bib in the BF forum........
24 Apr 11:26
Hi, I could give some thoughts here as I have extensive tennis knowledge.
First of all I am not so sure about your strategy here, you are backing mostly short priced favorites and scratch the trade when they get into trouble. For me that means that the only way to win a bet is if the short priced favorite is a train to 1.01. I haven't checked the statistics but for me, from a trader's point of view - it's not very often the case.Take Almagro's last two matches before yesterday.
You could have backed him @ 1.4 and 1.5 pre match, and he won them. But he traded at odds of over 7 in each of them. That's where you're missing out on a lot of value. I wouldn't fancy my chances of making profits backing a favorite and only winning the bet IF he is a train to 1.01. Markets usually know when a fav wins like that, and you get no value in the odds - Wozniacki for example. She wins a lot of straight sets matches but the odds on her are a joke.Also, the quality of the picks is debatable, IF you want 1.01 trains, you have to be very very careful with the selection, and this is where I think you come up short.
Also you need much better loss management, I saw you lost 15% of your bank in a single day, you cannot afford losses like that.Hope you take these thoughts into consideration when you decide to make changes to your strategy.
Cheers.
my answer
bib,
thanks for posting and particularly with regard to your tennis knowledge. At one point I have to agree with CurlyBlues that if a player is losing the first set, and a break down I don't want to sit in and wait for him winning the match. then I will try to get my scratch, even if he lost the first set thats enough for me to go for the exit. Sometimes for example yesterday the Verdasco match, I will try to stay in the match, because the price is allowing it. this depends on the mass price behaviour.
Regarding the quality of picks I will not argue with you, because you are 100% right. Here is avery big point to optimize the strategy.
My point is that I don't know if the fav will win at all, in gerneral nobody knows it. I will go with the fav as long it is an easy match, like you said a 1.01 train. If I see that it is going the hard way, I try to find the exit. I am still convinced, that the scratch trades are actually my winners at the end of the story.
Interesting is that until today nobody gave me an answer regarding the numbers, for example I had more than 300 initial 600 bets, around 230000$ turnaround and I am down 2300$ = 1% and around 1700$ paid commission. not to mention the retirements. How many trades or turnaround do I need that those numbers will be meaningful/convincing?To tell you the truth, if I will not lose any money here I am very much satisfied.
Again thank you very much for trying to help,it is very much appreciated.
I am convinced that posting like yours and some of CurlyBlues :) are always helpful in some way.
Yesterday result..............................
Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 325 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Berdych v Verdasco : Match Odds 23-Apr-09 19:00 23-Apr-09 21:49 172.63
Tennis / Robredo v Andreev : Match Odds 23-Apr-09 15:30 23-Apr-09 17:49 21.32
Tennis / Stepanek v Wawrinka : Match Odds 23-Apr-09 12:30 23-Apr-09 14:58 21.57
Tennis / Almagro v Nalbandian : Match Odds 23-Apr-09 13:00 23-Apr-09 14:18 400.54
Tennis: -USD2,342.75 Total P&L: -USD2,342.75
Thursday, April 23, 2009
Yesterday result.................................
Tennis Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets 321 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Ventura v F Lopez : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 18:00 22-Apr-09 22:06 -132.31
Tennis / Gimeno Traver v Monaco : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 16:30 22-Apr-09 21:19 143.85
Tennis / Youzhny v Wawrinka : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 15:15 22-Apr-09 19:44 195.64
Tennis / Almagro v Chela : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 15:15 22-Apr-09 19:37 -11.39
Tennis / Soderling v Starace : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 14:00 22-Apr-09 17:59 -600.00
Tennis / F Gonzalez v Acasuso : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 14:00 22-Apr-09 16:56 212.89
Tennis / Stepanek v Tipsarevic : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 12:45 22-Apr-09 15:36 454.57
Tennis / Kunitsyn v Nalbandian : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 12:45 22-Apr-09 15:23 201.39
Tennis / Berdych v Hernandez : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 11:30 22-Apr-09 13:43 -12.00
Tennis: -USD2,958.81 Total P&L: -USD2,958.81
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Soderling result....................
was to convinced that Starace will lose. aftertiming is telling me, that the scratch was the way to go.
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
Today result..........................................
Tennis Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets of 312 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Hernych v Gasquet : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 16:30 21-Apr-09 23:40 -67.56
Tennis / Monaco v Safin : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 19:00 21-Apr-09 22:10 339.49
Tennis / N Lapentti v Mathieu : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 15:15 21-Apr-09 22:05 -98.46
Tennis / Youzhny v Troicki : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 15:15 21-Apr-09 21:19 -0.01
Tennis / Soderling v Gabashvili : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 16:30 21-Apr-09 20:16 276.19
Tennis / Stepanek v Garcia Lopez : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 14:00 21-Apr-09 19:44 4.10
Tennis / Canas v Clement : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 12:45 21-Apr-09 14:54 -46.15
Tennis / Martin v Andreev : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 12:45 21-Apr-09 14:34 241.67
Tennis / Hernandez v Schwank : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 11:30 21-Apr-09 12:58 391.27
Tennis / Fognini v Gimeno Traver : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 11:30 21-Apr-09 12:44 -600.00
Tennis: -USD3,411.45 Total P&L: -USD3,411.45
Troicki result......................
5-4 rainbreak and immediate break, it looked very much that there will be a TB. I scratched the trade.
1set 5-5
Monday, April 20, 2009
Today result.......................
Tennis Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets of 302 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Gil v Lu : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 16:30 20-Apr-09 20:19 172.62
Tennis / Riba Madrid v Kukushkin : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 15:15 20-Apr-09 19:29 -600.00
Tennis / Chela v Bellucci : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 15:15 20-Apr-09 18:57 28.07
Tennis / Almagro v Hanescu : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 15:30 20-Apr-09 18:31 212.90
Tennis / Gulbis v Starace : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 14:00 20-Apr-09 17:36 -20.11
Tennis / Seppi v Andreev : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 11:30 20-Apr-09 13:53 0.00
Tennis: -USD3,851.99 Total P&L: -USD3,851.99
Berdych result.....................oponent retired 5-2.....
Vassallo-Arguello retired at 2-5 :( :(
Almagro result................ winner by retirement
Hanscu retired 6-3 6-7 2-2
the 2nd retirement in my favour
Sunday, April 19, 2009
Today result........................
Tennis Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets of 296 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Wozniacki v Lisicki : Match Odds 19-Apr-09 20:00 19-Apr-09 21:35 -600.00
Tennis / Kirilenko v Vinci : Match Odds 19-Apr-09 14:00 19-Apr-09 15:22 9.02
Tennis: -USD3,645.47 Total P&L: -USD3,645.47
MROP's posting in the BF forum................
There is none as horselover has said himself. Horselover what would the profit be if you layed the odds on as your opening trade, have you gone back over the results?. Your losses would be smaller and more frequent but i'd imagine its a better way to go about it.
my answer
MROP,
I can't remember that I have talked at some stage about an edge.if I understand you right, you mean that I should reverse my strategy and instead of backing, I should lay every selection.
I personally need for every market position an exit strategy. this is one reason I couldn't do it. I even can't test it, because of this. and as I am already an old guy, I know that if a system has a downdraw people tend to tell other people or themselve, that if I lose this way, I need only to reverse it and go against it.
believe me or not, thats what I did when I was the first time (40 Years ago) in a casino. I can tell you thats not the way to handle a strategy. even if it is a bad one.
the panic reactions after a loss is a very common reaction in the stock and betting exchange.for now I will stick to my strategy. I think that the only optimization could be a better knowledge of my selections.
cheers and thanks for posting
Question in the BF forum............
No offence, but I dont get where your edge is.
my answer
legitimate question. I can't tell you, because you don't know my exit and scratch strategy . I don't want to give away the whole strategy. I hope you will understand this.
but lets wait a few weeks and see the P&L in relation to the turnaround. then maybe you or some stats experts will tell me if I have an edge.
right now I have about 280 initial 600 bets and I am only 3000 down. 4 retirements and some bad beats. ah almost forgot the commision.
I need to keep my discipline and patience, and everything will be fine. there will be much better days, imho.
cheers
Saturday, April 18, 2009
Yesterday result..................
Tennis Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets of 294 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Bartoli v Lisicki : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 21:15 19-Apr-09 00:24 -852.00
Tennis / Dementieva v Wozniacki : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 20:00 18-Apr-09 23:07 -30.21
Tennis / Suarez Navarro v Kirilenko : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 15:45 18-Apr-09 20:30 -600.00
Tennis / Schiavone v Vinci : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 15:30 18-Apr-09 17:50 3.12
Tennis / Djokovic v Wawrinka : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 14:30 18-Apr-09 17:14 21.90
Tennis / Malek v Suarez Navarro : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 12:30 18-Apr-09 14:21 172.62
Tennis / Martinez Sanchez v Kirilenko : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 11:30 18-Apr-09 12:52 345.24
Tennis: -USD3,054.49 Total P&L: -USD3,054.49
Schiavone result...................
I could take 1.05 in the 2nd set, I had those situations a few times.maybe I should green out in those situations?
Momentum or price................
I forgot to mention that sometimes the price is keeping me in the match, even in 1set and TB
Roger Oasis posting from the BF forum.........
horselover, plus a retirement that went your way.I'll reply to the points you raised tomorrow as I'm too tiired after a long day at the office today and don't want to type something that I later re-read and think - "Oh hell, I didn't mean it like that".My initial thoughts were based round using more stats.i.e. Which favourite players regularly win - but take 3 sets to do it and you might be scratching too early. From what I have read, this happenms more in women's tennis. I know Murray used to be famous for making hard work of his matches.What I mean is are you scratching too early with favourites who take 3 sets to win?I'll stop there as I'm just adding more sentences trying to make my meaning clear.Thanks very much for your kind comments, they are appreciated, believe me.I think you are very brave to openly post your plan and strategy - and it has been already said, leave yourself open to abuse.Also hello to Layem and payem - the Rodger mistake is forgiven - providing I can call you Payem and layem!
Nighty-night.
my answer
Roger OASIS,
I am sure You earned Your beer and a quiet evening. I am already retired. regarding the retirements,let me explain my point of view. lets take the retirement from yesterday, it happened when my selection was up 1st set and 1:0. I couldnt lose in this match anyway. Dementieva was 1.28, I will need 2-3 retirements for each retirement against me.
I personally dont think that I will get so many retirements to equalize the retirements against me. I have to eat it as it comes You are 100% right that I need to use the stats that You mentioned. but as I said , I like stats, but I cant work with excel to program it the way I would need it. those stats would be 100% very helpful in any way.
what I am doing now, is experience only. over the years I followed the tennis prices and saw reccurring price movements. especially the panic movements (over and under reactions).the scratch trade is for me the most important trade, even if I scratch sometimes to early, but who knowswhat is to early? this we know only after the match. I am still convinced that a scratch to early is not hurting me.
I also use Gruss.
thanks again for the posting and trying to help. and thumbs up for Your sentence:
"Good of you to post and i do like a thread where we can exchange these ideas, experiences and strategies without being abusive"
Posting from CurlyBlues from the BF forum........
I've already suggested atleast once to horselover that he's happy to scratch with momentum when his player has been winning and yet he scratches against momentum when his player comes from behind and perhaps this is something he could look at. Perhaps you will take the time to explain this thoroughly. Favourite backers have done well today.
my answer
if You take yesterday as an example, Nalbandian,Verdasco and Bolleli lost their match, and I would not be in + if I would let those matches run to the end.a TB for me is like a coin toss, and there are only few exceptions like Roddick, Murray, Isner etc. (sure the ground of play is imprtant)the same is with the 3rd set, for me it is mostly not always a toss of a coin. but also here the discretionary trade is an important part.every day I am learning more and more with every match.I dont like players or someone else coming from behind :)
anyway thanks for the well meant contribution.
Yesterday result........................
Tennis Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets of 287 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Vesnina v Lisicki : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 22:30 18-Apr-09 00:03 506.35
Tennis / Razzano v Wozniacki : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 21:15 17-Apr-09 22:47 183.94
Tennis / A Murray v Davydenko : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 16:45 17-Apr-09 21:55 34.26
Tennis / Dementieva v Cibulkova : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 20:00 17-Apr-09 21:10 160.94
Tennis / Safarova v Schiavone : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 14:00 17-Apr-09 16:58 511.57
Tennis / Verdasco v Djokovic : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 13:00 17-Apr-09 16:03 -48.78
Tennis / Yakimova v Vinci : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 13:00 17-Apr-09 14:43 402.36
Tennis / Nalbandian v Davydenko : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 11:30 17-Apr-09 14:19 20.94
Tennis / Bolelli v Ljubicic : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 11:30 17-Apr-09 13:38 21.24
Tennis: -USD2,115.16 Total P&L: -USD2,115.16
Friday, April 17, 2009
retirements count................
S. Cohen-Aloro retired against Malek 0-5 :( I was on Malek
today Cibulkova retired 4-6 0-1 I was on Dementieva 1.28
Verdasco result.......................
Verdasco -80.32
Djoko - 18.78
now
Verdasco -43.12
Djoko -48.78
Kirilenko, Schiavone ...............................
Schiavone 1.89 no fill yet
Kirilenko 1.60
I backed Kirilenko yesterday, because I didn't know if I will have time this morning. a good example not to back a day before. its the last time I did it. promised :)
Bolleli, Nalbandian results.........................
Nalbandian = scratch trade
my answer to Roger OASIS...................
first of all a big thank You and hats off for the posting.
one can see how well-meant this posting is. very much appreciated. I copied the posting to my blog.
it looks that You are a good stats guy.
the day You took as an example was a very bad day for favs.but this doesn't happen everyday. but I also understand Your point. the problem is that I can'tlower the loss max of 1100 in case of the 600 initial prematch bet.if I lower the initial 600 bet to for example 400 so the loss will be lower but also the winnings in relation to this. it will stay the same by numbers.
the only thing what one could do is to put more thoughts in the selections. but here we are thinking the same as I see. as I am not a tennis expert I take every fav and restricted it only to agiven price range.
writing this I have to say that there is also the possibility totake only the high priced fav. this I need to check if it makes sense, because the winners will be less and I have to compare it to the losers. I think You mentioned it in a posting before. anyway good to see that You found a way to optimize Your strategy.
may I ask what software are You using for the lay of the field?
hats off again for the posting
another interesting posting from the betfair forum.........
17 Apr 01:15
Sorry to see this horselover:
Tennis: -USD1,501.90 Total P&L: -USD1,501.90
I know you want to stick with your current strategy but look at the analysis:
-996
-936
-911
-600
-17
-13
0 0
26
36
48
144
189
218
218
287
386
419
---------
1,861
Simply, your 7 highest winnings amounts are only covering the top 2 losses.
I speak from some experience of a similar system as for 9 months now, I have manually noted the lowest price that horses traded at - without winning - in all U.K. and Ireland markets.
I have have stats now for over 5,000 races and the curved back to prove it!I wanted a system where my own thoughts/views/knowledge did not sway me and horse-racing fitted the bill as i know very little about it and have purposefully maintained that.Similar to you when you said that other posters know more about tennis than you.
I now lay the field at certaiin courses and at certain types of races but was puzzled after several months, why I was not winning more often, even after discovering other factors along the way such as Irish races often have liitle liquidity, Sunday races can also be poor etc etc - perhaps similar to in your case, unusual number of retirements.
So I analysed my spread-sheets, and found I was laying too high because I wanted 'safety'.So if the most profitable lay would be 1.30, I would then lay at 1.50 as I felt covered by the 20 pts gap. If it was 1.45, then I would lay at 1.65.
As a person, I feel more comfortable if I can win smaller amounts regularly than one large win followed by several small losses. We all have our quirks and that by nature is me.
But, I've had to change my tactics and now lay a lot lower - and hence much nearer the most profitable figure - and my profit levels have improved.There were 2 similar races yesterday, where my most profitable lay was 1.17.Two months ago I would have laid 20 points higher at 1.37.Result 1st race - lowest traded without winning was 1.22. Result 2nd race - lowest traded without winning was 1.13.
Using £ 100 fixed level liability (although I'm not that high yet!)New method at 1.17 = 388 ((-100) + (588-100=488)).Old 'comfort' method at 1.37 = + 340 (270-100 x 2 races).
£48 is not a lot of difference but then multiplied by the number of races that are held each week in UK/Ireland, makes a considerable difference in the long term.
Actually, I usually split my lay into 3 or 4 parts. anyway e.g. if best lay is 1.17 then, roughly 25% - 1.17, 25% - 1.19 25% - 1.21, 25% - 1.23.
Also, there are often large amounts of say £ 2,000 at 1.20 and my small stakes would sit behind that, so I put in a higher amount say 1.21.
Anyway, I hope all this helps or even though you do not use of 'notes from my journey', might perhaps give you a kernel of an idea to approach your scheme from another view point.
For any other readers, I will not answer any questions as this is horselover's own private thread.
Yesterday result...................
Tennis: USD291.12 Total P&L: USD291.12
Tennis Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets of 278 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Czink v Petrova : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 22:30 17-Apr-09 01:36 16.59
Tennis / Vesnina v Kutuzova : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 21:45 17-Apr-09 01:34 19.42
Tennis / Peng v Wozniacki : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 20:30 16-Apr-09 22:52 166.69
Tennis / Schiavone v Vaidisova : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 15:30 16-Apr-09 19:01 419.61 Tennis / Beck v Monaco : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 16:30 16-Apr-09 18:50 33.24
Tennis / Errani v Safarova : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 13:00 16-Apr-09 18:35 -876.00
Tennis / Verdasco v Ferrer : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 16:30 16-Apr-09 18:04 511.57
Tennis: -USD3,907.98 Total P&L: -USD3,907.98
Thursday, April 16, 2009
Rain again :(
Verdasco 6-2
Monaco 6-3
monaco is still playing
this break can't be good for me :( even they are a set up
wait and see
Malek result..................
I just can't believe it after 3 retirements against me.
today betfair is unavailable till 10:00 BST...
I didn't know that there will be this upgrade, but I saw the price of Verdasco v Ferrer is 1.89 and I got a partly fill and I am sure I will get the fill later. now I can sit and hope that the BF page will be up at 10:00 BST or even before, so I will have a chance to react if I will need to scratch the trade.
Yesterday result..........................
Tennis: -USD1,501.90 Total P&L: -USD1,501.90
Tennis Showing 1 - 18 of 18 markets of 271 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Peng v Amanmuradova : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 20:45 16-Apr-09 00:16 -13.44
Tennis / Schnyder v Vesnina : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 20:15 16-Apr-09 00:15 48.08
Tennis / Zec Peskiric v Martinez Sanchez : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 18:30 15-Apr-09 22:02 -0.01
Tennis / Dubois v Razzano : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 19:30 15-Apr-09 21:57 143.70
Tennis / King v Czink : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 19:30 15-Apr-09 21:49 287.42
Tennis / Safin v Lapentti : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 15:15 15-Apr-09 20:50 35.96
Tennis / Mattek Sands v Rodionova : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 18:15 15-Apr-09 20:21 25.92
Tennis / Lepchenko v Perry : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 18:15 15-Apr-09 19:57 385.12
Tennis / Kutuzova v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 17:00 15-Apr-09 18:47 -910.78
Tennis / Lisicki v Wienerova : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 17:00 15-Apr-09 18:31 218.42
Tennis / Oudin v Wozniak : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 17:00 15-Apr-09 18:16 -996.00
Tennis / Fognini v Cilic : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 14:00 15-Apr-09 16:19 -936.00
Tennis / Nalbandian v Granollers : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 12:45 15-Apr-09 15:52 0.00
Tennis / Vinci v Pennetta : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 13:15 15-Apr-09 15:39 -600.00
Tennis / Wawrinka v Vassallo Arguello : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 12:00 15-Apr-09 14:55 -17.15
Tennis / Bremond v Kirilenko : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 12:00 15-Apr-09 14:01 189.49
Tennis / Tipsarevic v Bolelli : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 11:30 15-Apr-09 13:24 419.17
Tennis / Verdasco v Kohlschreiber : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 11:30 15-Apr-09 13:08 218.20
Tennis: -USD4,199.10 Total P&L: -USD4,199.10
Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Lepchenko, Razzano, CzinkCzink results...............
Razzano = winner
Czink = winner
M.Sanchez result..................
3rd set terrible match over 3 hours already
A.Bondarenko , Wozniak , Lisicki ...........................
A.Bondarenko 1.54
Wozniak 1.42
Lisicki 1.38
Yesterday result..............................
Tennis: -USD1,985.75 Total P&L: -USD1,985.75
Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 253 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Mayr v Petrova : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 20:45 15-Apr-09 00:21 49.77
Tennis / Paszek v Cibulkova : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 19:30 14-Apr-09 22:04 208.46
Tennis / Q v Kudryavtseva : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 19:00 14-Apr-09 21:22 -600.00
Tennis / Safin v Hewitt : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 15:15 14-Apr-09 19:30 -876.00
Tennis / Karlovic v Serra : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 16:00 14-Apr-09 18:16 -786.00
Tennis / Pin v Kirilenko : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 14:30 14-Apr-09 17:51 200.97
Tennis / Lopez v Ferrer : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 14:00 14-Apr-09 17:39 160.78
Tennis / Cirstea v Yakimova : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 14:15 14-Apr-09 17:23 0.00
Tennis / Monaco v Robredo : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 14:45 14-Apr-09 16:41 18.86
Tennis / Nalbandian v Mathieu : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 12:45 14-Apr-09 16:03 220.84
Tennis / Schiavone v Dominguez Lino : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 13:15 14-Apr-09 16:00 4.16
Tennis / Almagro v Montanes : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 12:00 14-Apr-09 14:48 -46.48
Tennis / Fognini v Berdych : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 11:30 14-Apr-09 13:39 58.89
Tennis / Monfils v Tipsarevic : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 11:30 14-Apr-09 12:52 -600.00
Tennis: -USD2,697.20 Total P&L: -USD2,697.20
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
Nalbandian,Kirilenko, Ferrer results............
Kirilenko = winner
Ferrer = winner
good example why I put my bets shortly before the start.......
Rochus drifted from about 1.6 to almost 6 :(
lets see what is behind and if Rochus will retire.
there are people who put their bets in already a night before :(
A nice posting in my thread in the betfair forum......
14 Apr 02:25
Was - 4,000
Then -2,000
2 days ago - 1.300
Now - 600
Great turnaround.Well done Horselover - am pleased as you seem very honest in your posts.
Monday, April 13, 2009
Todays result...................
Tennis Showing 1 - 12 of 12 markets of 239 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / N Lapentti v Stepanek : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 15:15 13-Apr-09 21:47 0.00
Tennis / Peng v Pivovaova : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 18:15 13-Apr-09 19:38 258.39
Tennis / Vliegen v Ljubicic : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 14:00 13-Apr-09 19:31 77.95
Tennis / Cipolla v Cilic : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 15:15 13-Apr-09 18:28 292.84
Tennis / Beck v Kiefer : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 14:15 13-Apr-09 18:12 4.07
Tennis / Kvitova v Pennetta : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 15:00 13-Apr-09 17:59 194.89
Tennis / Errani v M Johansson : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 14:45 13-Apr-09 17:33 13.83
Tennis / Chardy v Monaco : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 14:00 13-Apr-09 16:45 241.16
Tennis / Gicquel v Schwank : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 12:45 13-Apr-09 16:43 133.10
Tennis / Acasuso v Granollers : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 13:00 13-Apr-09 15:24 8.33
Tennis / Seppi v Melzer : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 12:45 13-Apr-09 14:43 338.78
Tennis / Benneteau v Hernandez : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 11:30 13-Apr-09 13:21 -929.93
Tennis: -USD711.45 Total P&L: -USD711.45
Errani, Kiefer, Monaco results............
Kiefer = scratch trade
Monaco = winner
Yesterday results.........................
Tennis Showing 1 - 5 of 5 markets of 227 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Hewitt v Odesnik : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 22:00 13-Apr-09 01:30 189.49
Tennis / Ferrero v Serra : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 17:30 12-Apr-09 19:16 292.84
Tennis / Soderling v Bolelli : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 14:30 12-Apr-09 17:32 21.79
Tennis / Jankovic v Suarez Navarro : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 14:00 12-Apr-09 16:29 8.29
Tennis / Gulbis v Kohlschreiber : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 13:15 12-Apr-09 15:04 359.09
Tennis: -USD1,344.86 Total P&L: -USD1,344.86