Thursday, May 21, 2009

Yesterday posting of mine................

I will be out today so it is a good chance to recheck and rethink my strategy. although I don't see to many possibilities for changing. %age wise the loss is not much in regard to the turnover.one proposed in another posting to trade the exit strategy only. on paper this strat is really good. but it is paper, and I know that paper and real is always a big difference.thanks for the postings and well meant tips.

good luck all

Tuesday, May 19, 2009

Tomorrow I am out the whole day......................

one day break and a good chance to re-check and re-think the strategy.

Today result...................................

Tennis: -USD1,510.53 Total P&L: -USD1,510.53

Tennis Showing 1 - 15 of 15 markets of 563 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Johansson v Cohen Aloro : Match Odds 19-May-09 15:45 19-May-09 21:07 18.25

Tennis / Soderling v Querrey : Match Odds 19-May-09 18:00 19-May-09 19:28 230.88

Tennis / Kudryavtseva v Dechy : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:30 19-May-09 18:55 -73.43

Tennis / U Radwanska v Koryttseva : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:30 19-May-09 18:36 -13.69

Tennis / Chela v Gicquel : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:15 19-May-09 17:20 -131.05

Tennis / Santoro v Hernandez : Match Odds 19-May-09 15:30 19-May-09 17:12 311.69

Tennis / Hantuchova v Llagostera Vives : Match Odds 19-May-09 13:15 19-May-09 16:14 150.06

Tennis / Koubek v Petzschner : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:15 19-May-09 15:55 75.60

Tennis / Capdeville v Junqueira : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:15 19-May-09 15:46 -810.60

Tennis / Simon v Schuettler : Match Odds 19-May-09 14:00 19-May-09 15:42 -600.00

Tennis / Benneteau v Sela : Match Odds 19-May-09 13:00 19-May-09 14:33 303.54

Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Wickmayer : Match Odds 19-May-09 12:00 19-May-09 14:29 20.43

Tennis / Lepchenko v Parmentier : Match Odds 19-May-09 12:00 19-May-09 14:22 -600.00

Tennis / Ani v Yakimova : Match Odds 19-May-09 12:00 19-May-09 14:18 207.79

Tennis / Dokic v Olaru : Match Odds 19-May-09 12:00 19-May-09 13:49 -600.00



Tennis: -USD7,684.31 Total P&L: -USD7,684.31

All results of today............................

Yakimova = winner

Lepchenko = loser :(

M.Garrigues = scratch trade 2nd set

Dokic = loser :(

Benneteau = winner

Simon = loser :(

Hantuchova = winner

Koubek = scratch trade 1st set TB

Capdeville = loser :(

Chela = scratch trade 1st set 5-6

Hernandez = winner

Dechy = scratch trade 2nd set

Koryttseva = scratch trade 2nd set

Johansson = scratch trade 1st set 5-4

Soderling = winner

Johansson only partly fill............................

Johansson only partly fill at 1.73 for 258.96

Johansson ..................................

I backed

Johansson 1.73

Soderling ..........................................

I backed

Soderling 1.40

Koryttseva ........................................

I backed

Koryttseva 1.80

Dechy.....................................

I backed

Dechy 1.63

Hernandez...........................................

I backed

Hernandez 1.54

Capdeville....................................

I backed

Capdeville 1.71

Chela .................................................

I backed

Chela 1.65

Koubek.........................................

I backed

Koubek 1.73

Hantuchova..............................

I backed

Hantuchova 1.26

Simon.......................

I backed

Simon 1.26

no fill for Ancic.....................................

no fill for Ancic

Benneteau , Ancic.......................................

I backed

Benneteau 1.53

Ancic 1.35

Dokic ...........................................

I backed

Dokic 1.45

Yakimova, Lepchenko, M.Garrigues............................

I backed

Yakimova 1.36

Lepchenko 1.67

M.Garrigues 1.53

Monday, May 18, 2009

Today result.......................

Tennis: -USD1,243.78 Total P&L: -USD1,243.78

Tennis Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets of 548 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Lu v Calleri : Match Odds 18-May-09 15:30 18-May-09 21:00 15.17

Tennis / Bellucci v Koellerer : Match Odds 18-May-09 17:30 18-May-09 19:33 -833.98

Tennis / Wozniak v Goerges : Match Odds 18-May-09 15:45 18-May-09 19:23 -600.00

Tennis / Rezai v Bammer : Match Odds 18-May-09 14:30 18-May-09 19:06 329.00

Tennis / Garbin v Sharapova : Match Odds 18-May-09 15:15 18-May-09 19:05 34.86

Tennis / Hernych v A Beck : Match Odds 18-May-09 14:15 18-May-09 17:20 1.72

Tennis / Peng v Glatch : Match Odds 18-May-09 13:00 18-May-09 15:36 -21.75

Tennis / Granollers v Gabashvili : Match Odds 18-May-09 13:00 18-May-09 15:35 0.00

Tennis / Keothavong v Mattek Sands : Match Odds 18-May-09 13:15 18-May-09 15:24 -168.80


Tennis: -USD6,173.78 Total P&L: -USD6,173.78

All results of today.................

Peng = scratch trade 2nd set

Granolers = scratch trade 1st set TB

Mattek Sands = scratch trade 2nd set TB

Beck = scratch trade 2nd set

Sharapova = scratch trade 3rd set

Wozniak = loser :(

Rezai = winner

Bellucci = loser :(

Calleri = scratch trade 2nd set

Caleri ..............................................

I backed

Caleri 1.52

Wozniak ....................................

I backed

Wozniak 1.35

Bellucci................

I backed

Bellucci 1.90

Rezai..............................................

I backed

Rezai 1.57

Sharapova...........................

I backed

Sharapova 1.41

Beck...................................

I backed

Beck 1.40

Granollers, Peng , Mattek Sands......................

I backed

Granollers 1.73

Peng 1.33

Mattek Sands 1.61

Sunday, May 17, 2009

Today result..............................

Tennis: -USD506.78 Total P&L: -USD506.78

Tennis Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets of 539 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Simon v Soderling : Match Odds 17-May-09 17:00 17-May-09 20:11 38.75

Tennis / Nadal v Federer : Match Odds 17-May-09 17:00 17-May-09 18:46 -600.00

Tennis / Safina v Wozniacki : Match Odds 17-May-09 14:30 17-May-09 16:30 242.72

Tennis / Schuettler v Querrey : Match Odds 17-May-09 13:00 17-May-09 15:37 -21.15

Tennis / Korolev v Seppi : Match Odds 17-May-09 13:00 17-May-09 15:21 -600.00

Tennis / Phau v Garcia Lopez : Match Odds 17-May-09 13:00 17-May-09 15:07 432.90

Profit and Loss is shown net of commission.

Tennis: -USD4,930.00 Total P&L: -USD4,930.00

All results of today.....................

GG Lopez = winner

Querry = scratch trade 2nd set

Seppi = loser :(

Safina = winner

Nadal = loser :(

Simon = scratch trade 2nd set

Simon .........................................

I backed

Simon 1.88

Nadal ...........................................

I backed

Nadal 1.38

Safina.....................................

I backed

Safina 1.42

GG Lopez, Querry, Seppi ........................................

I backed

GG Lopez 1.75

Querry 1.47

Seppi 1.52

Saturday, May 16, 2009

Today result.................................

Tennis: USD392.82 Total P&L: USD392.82

Tennis Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets of 533 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Del Potro v Federer : Match Odds 16-May-09 21:00 16-May-09 23:30 253.97

Tennis / Safina v Schnyder : Match Odds 16-May-09 14:00 16-May-09 15:46 138.53

Tennis / Mauresmo v Wozniacki : Match Odds 16-May-09 12:00 16-May-09 14:10 0.32



Tennis: -USD4,423.22 Total P&L: -USD4,423.22

All rsults of today..........................................

Wozniacki = scratch trade 1st set TB

Safina = winner

Federer = winner

Federer........................................

I backed

Federer 1.44

Safina................................

I backed

Safina 1.24

Wozniacki .........................................

I backed


Wozniacki 1.61

Yesterday result..............................

Tennis: -USD1,105.22 Total P&L: -USD1,105.22

Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 530 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Del Potro v Murray : Match Odds 15-May-09 22:15 16-May-09 01:37 -600.00

Tennis / Jankovic v Schnyder : Match Odds 15-May-09 19:30 15-May-09 21:28 -600.00

Tennis / Safina v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 15-May-09 17:00 15-May-09 19:18 132.76

Tennis / Szavay v Mauresmo : Match Odds 15-May-09 14:00 15-May-09 16:18 -37.98



Tennis: -USD4,816.04 Total P&L: -USD4,816.04

All resultas of today............................

Mauresmo = scratch trade 2nd set

Safina = winner

Jankovic = loser :(

Murray = loser :(

Thursday, May 14, 2009

Today result..............................

Tennis: USD216.88 Total P&L: USD216.88

Tennis Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets of 526 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Monaco v Verdasco : Match Odds 14-May-09 21:00 14-May-09 23:05 329.00

Tennis / Ljubicic v Simon : Match Odds 14-May-09 19:00 14-May-09 21:31 -600.00

Tennis / Kleybanova v Wozniacki : Match Odds 14-May-09 18:30 14-May-09 20:23 224.16

Tennis / Del Potro v Wawrinka : Match Odds 14-May-09 13:00 14-May-09 16:08 8.17

Tennis / Jankovic v Vesnina : Match Odds 14-May-09 14:00 14-May-09 15:32 138.53

Tennis / Robredo v Murray : Match Odds 14-May-09 13:00 14-May-09 14:59 196.25

Tennis / Chakvetadze v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 14-May-09 11:00 14-May-09 12:50 -79.23


Tennis: -USD3,710.82 Total P&L: -USD3,710.82

All results of today...............

A.Bondarenko = scratch trade 2nd set

Del Potro = scratch trade 2nd set

Murray = winner

Jankovic = winner

Wozniacki = winner

Simon = loser :(

Verdasco = winner

Simon ........................................

I backed

Simon 1.81

Verdasco, Wozniacki ..................................

I backed

Verdasco 1.57

Wozniacki 1.43

Jankovic................................................

I backed

Jankovic 1.24

Del Potro , Murray..............................

I backed

Del Potro 1.54

Murray 1.34

A.Bondarenko............................

I backed

A.Bondarenko 1.89

Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Today result......................

Tennis: USD194.58 Total P&L: USD194.58

Tennis Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets of 519 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Safina v Li : Match Odds 13-May-09 21:00 13-May-09 23:04 173.16

Tennis / Mauresmo v Dementieva : Match Odds 13-May-09 18:30 13-May-09 20:48 -43.06

Tennis / Ferrer v Monaco : Match Odds 13-May-09 16:45 13-May-09 20:16 -57.36

Tennis / Schnyder v Petrova : Match Odds 13-May-09 15:15 13-May-09 18:37 -140.16

Tennis / Blake v Karlovic : Match Odds 13-May-09 15:30 13-May-09 18:25 -3.57

Tennis / Kohlschreiber v Cilic : Match Odds 13-May-09 14:15 13-May-09 18:21 -78.89

Tennis / Fognini v Simon : Match Odds 13-May-09 14:15 13-May-09 15:57 196.25

Tennis / Seppi v Querrey : Match Odds 13-May-09 13:00 13-May-09 15:15 -26.53

Tennis / Dushevina v Schiavone : Match Odds 13-May-09 12:00 13-May-09 14:29 -150.00

Tennis / Del Potro v Berdych : Match Odds 13-May-09 13:00 13-May-09 14:23 324.74



Tennis: -USD3,927.70 Total P&L: -USD3,927.70

All results of today......................

Schiavone = scratch trade 2nd set

Del Potro = winner 6-2 4-1 and Berdych retired

Seppi = scratch trade 2nd set

Simon = winner

Cilic = scratch trade 2nd set

Petrova = scratch trade 2nd set

Blake = scratch trade 1st set TB

Dementieva = 2nd set

Ferrer = scratch trade 2nd set

Safina = winner

Safina................

I backed

Safina 1.30

Ferrer.....................

I backed

Ferrer 1.61

Dementieva.....................

I backed

Dementieva 1.42

Blake ........................

I backed

Blake 1.67

Petrova..............

I backed

Petrova 1.76

Cilic.................

I backed

Cilic 1.72

Simon.....................

I backed

Simon 1.34

Del Potro, Seppi .......................................

I backed

Del Potro 1.56

Seppi 1.73

Schiavone.............................

I backed


Schiavone 1.53

Very interesting idea from Lily from the BF forum.............

Lily of the Valley

12 May 13:03

A useful thread for promoting the obvious benefit of paper trading new stategies. Credit to you for keeping the running total going, unlike Rome's thread where the reader has to do their own analysis to discover his losses.

I've only skimmed through the thread but it appears you believe your edge lies within your exit strategy - have you done any analysis to see what your overall position would be had you not placed any pre-match bets and only placed your exit bets?

Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Today result..........................

Tennis: USD1,844.09 Total P&L: USD1,844.09

Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 509 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Keothavong v Safarova : Match Odds 12-May-09 18:00 12-May-09 22:46 173.16

Tennis / Zheng v Mauresmo : Match Odds 12-May-09 17:45 12-May-09 21:10 -258.13

Tennis / Tsonga v Ljubicic : Match Odds 12-May-09 15:30 12-May-09 20:11 22.52

Tennis / Jankovic v Hantuchova : Match Odds 12-May-09 17:00 12-May-09 19:49 150.07

Tennis / Karlovic v Benneteau : Match Odds 12-May-09 15:30 12-May-09 19:43 26.09

Tennis / Blake v Hansecu : Match Odds 12-May-09 16:30 12-May-09 19:17 380.95

Tennis / Ferrero v Verdasco : Match Odds 12-May-09 14:15 12-May-09 17:38 173.16

Tennis / Garcia Lopez v Berdych : Match Odds 12-May-09 14:15 12-May-09 17:10 196.25

Tennis / Chardy v Acasuso : Match Odds 12-May-09 14:15 12-May-09 16:49 398.27

Tennis / Robredo v Fish : Match Odds 12-May-09 13:00 12-May-09 15:26 -31.80

Tennis / Mathieu v Fognini : Match Odds 12-May-09 13:00 12-May-09 15:14 2.44

Tennis / Seppi v Schwank : Match Odds 12-May-09 13:00 12-May-09 15:00 340.55

Tennis / Rezai v Szavay : Match Odds 12-May-09 12:00 12-May-09 14:27 16.59

Tennis / Kvitova v Schiavone : Match Odds 12-May-09 11:00 12-May-09 12:27 253.97



Tennis: -USD4,122.28 Total P&L: -USD4,122.28

All results of today..........................

Schiavone = winner

Szavay = scratch trade 2nd set

Robredo = scratch trade 2nd set

Mathieu = scratch trade 1st set TB he retired in 3rd

Seppi = winner

Berdych = winner

Verdasco = winner

Chardy = winner

Karlovic = scratch trade 1st set 3-3 I didn't like the prematch drift

Blake = winner

Jankovic = winner

Tsonga = scratch trade 2nd set

Zheng = scratch trade with little red 2nd set

Safarova = winner

Safarova..................

I backed

Safarova 1.30

Zheng.....................................

I backed

Zheng 1.80

Tsonga................................

I backed

Tsonga 1.63

Jankovic...............................................

I backed

Jankovic 1.26

Blake......................

I backed

Blake 1.66

Karlovic........................

I backed

Karlovic 1.67

Chardy , Verdasco , Berdych...............................

sorry for late posting

I backed

Chardy 1.69

Verdasco 1.30

Berdych 1.34

Robredo, Mathieu, Seppi........................

I backed

Robredo 1.43

Mathieu 1.58

Seppi 1.59

Szavay ...................

I backed


Szavay 1.83

Schiavone .....................................

I backed

Schiavone 1.44

Monday, May 11, 2009

Today result......................................

Tennis: -USD242.60 Total P&L: -USD242.60

Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 495 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Stosur v Chakvetadze : Match Odds 11-May-09 19:00 11-May-09 23:34 -41.26

Tennis / F Lopez v Monaco : Match Odds 11-May-09 21:00 11-May-09 23:21 317.46

Tennis / Kohlschreiber v Almagro : Match Odds 11-May-09 17:45 11-May-09 21:03 -804.00

Tennis / Schiavone v S Williams : Match Odds 11-May-09 15:30 11-May-09 18:34 -600.00

Tennis / Groenefeld v Petrova : Match Odds 11-May-09 13:30 11-May-09 17:16 -60.42

Tennis / Tsonga v Safin : Match Odds 11-May-09 14:15 11-May-09 16:39 369.42

Tennis / Hantuchova v Dulko : Match Odds 11-May-09 12:15 11-May-09 16:33 -3.30

Tennis / Razzano v Vesnina : Match Odds 11-May-09 13:15 11-May-09 15:44 386.72

Tennis / Mauresmo v Sugiyama : Match Odds 11-May-09 14:00 11-May-09 15:25 144.30

Tennis / Lepchenko v Rybarikova : Match Odds 11-May-09 11:00 11-May-09 14:37 0.11

Tennis / Ljubicic v Gabashvili : Match Odds 11-May-09 12:15 11-May-09 14:20 311.68

Tennis / Pavlyuchenkova v Peng : Match Odds 11-May-09 12:00 11-May-09 13:52 -600.00

Tennis / Vinci v Martinez Sanchez : Match Odds 11-May-09 11:00 11-May-09 13:03 30.78

Tennis / Hernandez v Vassallo Arguello : Match Odds 11-May-09 11:00 11-May-09 12:45 305.91


Tennis: -USD5,966.37 Total P&L: -USD5,966.37

list of the retirements against me...........................

Errani
Youzhny
Llodra
Czink
Lisicki
Kanepi
Stepanek
S.Williams

----------------

5200- :(

All results of today......................2 retirements......

M.Sanchez = scratch trade 3rd set

Rybarikova = scratch trade 1st set TB

Hernandez = winner

Pavlyuchenkova = loser :(

Ljubicic = winner

Soderling = canceled because he played vs Navarro instead Andreev

Mauresmo = winner

Vesnina = winner

Petrova = scratch trade 2nd set

Dulko = scratch trade 1st set TB

Tsonga = winner

S.Williams = loser 4-6 retired :(

Wozniacki = no bet because Peer retired in 1st set :(

Almagro = loser :(

Monaco = winner

Chakvedatze = scratch trade 2nd set

Chakvedatze...............................

I backed

Monaco 1.55

Chakvedatze 1.76

Almagro.....................

I backed

Almagro 1.64

Wozniacki..............................

I backed

Wozniacki 1.19

S.Williams ..........................................

I backed

S.Williams 1.35

Tsonga.......................................

I backed


Tsonga 1.64

Dulko ....................................

I backed


Dulko 1.67

Petrova........................................

I backed

Petrova 1.75

Vesnina ...............................

I backed

Vesnina 1.67

Mauresmo........................

I backed


Mauresmo 1.25

Soderling.....................................

I backed

Soderling 1.71

Ljubicic ................................

I backed

Ljubicic 1.54

Pavlyuchenkova.............................

I backed

Pavlyuchenkova 1.54

M.Sanchez, Rybarikova, Hernandez ......................

I backed

M.Sanchez 1.58

Rybarikova 1.68

Hernandez 1.53

Sunday, May 10, 2009

Today result.............................

Tennis: -USD1,758.71 Total P&L: -USD1,758.71

Tennis Showing 1 - 16 of 16 markets of 481 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Groenefeld v Niculescu : Match Odds 10-May-09 15:15 10-May-09 23:00 188.59

Tennis / Kunitsyn v Ferrero : Match Odds 10-May-09 16:45 10-May-09 22:47 -106.01

Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Dushevina : Match Odds 10-May-09 16:30 10-May-09 22:20 -600.00

Tennis / Querrey v Stepanek : Match Odds 10-May-09 16:30 10-May-09 21:18 -600.01

Tennis / Szavay v Pennetta : Match Odds 10-May-09 15:15 10-May-09 20:16 -600.00

Tennis / Montanes v Blake : Match Odds 10-May-09 17:00 10-May-09 19:21 -600.00

Tennis / Youzhny v Berdych : Match Odds 10-May-09 16:00 10-May-09 19:01 -36.67

Tennis / Robredo v Kiefer : Match Odds 10-May-09 14:15 10-May-09 18:50 -23.07

Tennis / Schnyder v Errani : Match Odds 10-May-09 14:00 10-May-09 17:24 403.62

Tennis / Vesnina v Cornet : Match Odds 10-May-09 14:00 10-May-09 17:08 397.85

Tennis / Suarez Navarro v Li : Match Odds 10-May-09 13:00 10-May-09 15:36 20.86

Tennis / Rezai v Pironkova : Match Odds 10-May-09 14:00 10-May-09 15:36 409.39

Tennis / Garcia Lopez v Chela : Match Odds 10-May-09 12:45 10-May-09 15:06 361.29

Tennis / A Radwanska v Stosur : Match Odds 10-May-09 12:45 10-May-09 14:36 -600.00

Tennis / Safarova v Kanepi : Match Odds 10-May-09 11:30 10-May-09 13:07 -600.00

Tennis / Haas v Andujar : Match Odds 10-May-09 11:30 10-May-09 13:04 225.45


Tennis: -USD5,723.77 Total P&L: -USD5,723.77

All results of today............2 retirements................

Haas = winner

Bammer = scratch retired in 1st set

Kanepi = loser retired 2-7 3-2 :(

A.Radwanska = loser :(

Na Li = scratch trade 2nd set

Chela = winner

Rezai = winner

Vesnina = winner

Schnyder = winner

Berdych = scratch trade 2nd set

Groenefeld = winner

Robredo = scratch trade 2nd set

Pennetta = loser :(

Blake = loser :(

Stepanek = loser by retirement :(

Ferrero = scratch trade 3rd set

M.Garrigues = loser :(

M.Garrigues.........................................

I backed

M.Garrigues 1.31

Ferrero..............................................

I backed

Ferrero 1.36

Stepanek ......................

I backed

Stepanek 1.38

Blake......................

I backed

Blake 1.73

Pennetta .....................................

I backed


Pennetta 1.33

Robredo............................

I backed

Robredo 1.25

Berdych..............................

I backed

Berdych 1.69

Groenefeld ..........................

I backed

Groenefeld 1.34

Schnyder ...........................................

I backed

Schnyder 1.70

Vesnina.........................

I backed

Vesnina 1.69

Rezai ................................................

I backed

Rezai 1.71

Chela .............................................

I backed

Chela 1.63

A.Radwanska, Na Li ...........................

I backed

A.Radwanska 1.26

Na Li 1.84

Haas, Bammer, Kanepi ...............................

I backed

Haas 1.39

Bammer 1.53

Kanepi 1.50

Saturday, May 9, 2009

Today result......................................

Tennis: -USD1,963.56 Total P&L: -USD1,963.56

Tennis Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets of 465 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Montanes v Capdeville : Match Odds 09-May-09 16:55 09-May-09 22:21 276.94

Tennis / Zheng v Kirilenko : Match Odds 09-May-09 16:30 09-May-09 22:04 271.00

Tennis / Benesova v Petrova : Match Odds 09-May-09 16:30 09-May-09 20:55 260.23

Tennis / Bartoli v Wozniak : Match Odds 09-May-09 15:15 09-May-09 19:39 -600.00

Tennis / Safina v Kuznetsova : Match Odds 09-May-09 17:00 09-May-09 18:41 -846.01

Tennis / Berdych v Chardy : Match Odds 09-May-09 15:15 09-May-09 18:21 -23.87

Tennis / Soler Espinosa v Kleybanova : Match Odds 09-May-09 14:00 09-May-09 17:19 144.16

Tennis / Kubot v Karlovic : Match Odds 09-May-09 15:00 09-May-09 16:56 -600.00

Tennis / Wickmayer v Makarova : Match Odds 09-May-09 14:45 09-May-09 16:19 -846.00

Tennis / Brands v Youzhny : Match Odds 09-May-09 14:00 09-May-09 16:09 -0.01



Tennis: -USD3,965.06 Total P&L: -USD3,965.06

All results of the day.................retirement.........

Youzhny = scratch trade 3rd set

Makarova = loser :(

Karlovic = loser :(

Kleybanova = winner

Berdych = scratch trade 3rd set

Kutznetsova = loser :(

Montanes = winner

Bartoli = loser :(

Petrova = winner by retirement 6-0 2-1

Zheng = winner

Zheng , Petrova...............................

I backed

Zheng 1.47

Petrova 1.45

Bartoli......................................

I backed

Bartoli 1.45

Kutznetsova...........................

I backed

Kutznetsova 1.67

Montanes .....................

I backed

Montanes 1.48

Berdych ..........................................

I backed

Berdych 1.69

Kleybanova ................................................

I backed

Kleybanova 1.25

Karlovic ..............................

I backed

Karlovic 1.34

Youzhny, Makarova........................

I backed

Youzhny 1.30

Makarova 1.53

Another posting from ebasson61..................

ebasson61
09 May 12:55



Morning horselover

I hope you don't think I was being too critical, as I think you deserve a lot of credit for the discipline and patience you have shown throughout this thread.I agree that all strategies will have ups and downs and that we shouldn't be diverted from a full and thorough test of a system simply if we have a couple of downturns.

You mention the bet size, but I don't think that's an issue really. If you have an edge, then you can succeed with a £2 bet or a £20,000 bet.You ask how much you should be in the black by now, but I don't think that's a valid question. Personally, I always assess my strike rate against the average odds I'm getting (which I accept is not always easy to do if trading).

For example, to gauge the minimum odds you require based on your current win rate would be:(loss rate / win rate) + commission rate + 1Obviously to gauge the minimum win rate required based on your average odds is the inverse.

Anyway, GL to you.

Question from ebasson61 ................................

ebasson61 09 May 00:18

Hi Horselover

You seem like a serious bettor judging by the number of bets you have placed during this entire thread, but I'm wondering what the point of all this is.If it's just a bit of fun, then fair enough.

But if you're in this to actually make some money, then how long have you estimated it will be before you start seeing any profit? It's been three months now and I think during that entire time you've only been in the black for a couple of days.

I suppose the question is: How long does it take before deciding whether a system is working or not?
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my answer


good morning ebasson61

thanks for the question, because you have a point there. but first I have to correct you, I started here 2 month ago. and yes I want to make money here.

I am not a stats guy, but my opinion is that even if I am at the end of a year not in the black and only a low percentage in the red, I think it still doesnt tell me that the strategy is not good.

one guy said that at the end I will make money for betfair. so what? everyone is giving betfair their part :)

the difference to betfair and a casino in Las Vegas is, that betfair will not give me any complimentary.

if I will have a steady downmove, then its time to stop and rethink the startegy. imho, there is no steady downmove yet that I can see.

I think the strategy is a slow upmove one.

there is no strategy without downmoves, even if they are for a few month. sure there are the arbers, courtsiders etc.

and as I said before, even if I am at the end even, comission paid I think that is very good for me. I am sure there are many out there with big losses that would wish to be in this situation not losing a penny.

I am already retired. if I lose my bank, I have another bank to start again if I want. this is a big advantage, not to make a living out of the betting. but for sure it is nicer to succeed.

I am still very confident that I will be in the black at the end. and please understand that I could do it also with 6000 instead of 600 as an initial bet. then even a small win will be a big win moneywise. I will try to go steady up with my initial betting size, as soon I will reach a given plus.

Discipline, Patience and Balls thats what is needed :)

and if all the other people here in this thread are right at the end that I will lose the bank roll with my strategy, I will still have to eat and lost my money and not someone else money.

so lets wait and see and please have patience with me

best of luck

Friday, May 8, 2009

Today result..........................

Tennis: USD632.64 Total P&L: USD632.64

Tennis Showing 1 - 11 of 11 markets of 455 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Chardy v Cilic : Match Odds 08-May-09 16:45 08-May-09 20:41 -80.97

Tennis / Simon v Montanes : Match Odds 08-May-09 16:15 08-May-09 20:39 -56.36

Tennis / Safina v V Williams : Match Odds 08-May-09 17:00 08-May-09 20:22 -600.00

Tennis / Seppi v Daniel : Match Odds 08-May-09 16:15 08-May-09 18:59 236.16

Tennis / Hernandez v Capdeville : Match Odds 08-May-09 15:00 08-May-09 17:20 -183.72

Tennis / Cipolla v Karlovic : Match Odds 08-May-09 15:00 08-May-09 16:36 345.60

Tennis / Brands v Starace : Match Odds 08-May-09 14:15 08-May-09 16:26 94.25

Tennis / Kuznetsova v Azarenka : Match Odds 08-May-09 14:30 08-May-09 16:12 259.20

Tennis / Youzhny v Mathieu : Match Odds 08-May-09 13:00 08-May-09 15:27 51.96

Tennis / Vliegen v Kubot : Match Odds 08-May-09 13:00 08-May-09 15:04 19.32

Tennis / Groenefeld v Makarova : Match Odds 08-May-09 13:15 08-May-09 14:28 547.20



Tennis: -USD2,001.50 Total P&L: -USD2,001.50

All results of today......................

Vliegen = scratch trade 1st set TB

Mathieu = scratch trade 2nd set

Makarova = winner

Brands = scratch trade prematch

Kutznetsova = winner

Hernandez = scratch trade 3rd set

Karlovic = winner

V.Williams = loser :(

Seppi = winner

Simon = scratch trade 3rd set

Cilic = scratch trade 3rd set

Cilic

I backed

Cilic 1.51

Simon.....................

I backed

Simon 1.54

V.Williams , Seppi......................................

I backed

V.Williams 1.53

Seppi 1.41

Hernandez, Karlovic ....................................

I backed

Hernandez 1.61

Karlovic 1.60

Kutznetsova .......................

I backed

Kutznetsova 1.45

Brands v Starace................

I backed

Brands at 1.71 and greened out at 1.50 prematch

the reason is that I dont bet on Starace if he is fav. now the situation changed and Brands was fav prematch. maybe a fix, who knows. so I took a small green.

Makarova..................................

I backed

Makarova 1.95

Vliegen, Mathieu.................................

I backed

Vliegen 1.54

Mathieu 1.86

Thursday, May 7, 2009

Today result.....................

Tennis: -USD353.39 Total P&L: -USD353.39

Tennis Showing 1 - 13 of 13 markets of 444 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Dabul v Karlovic : Match Odds 07-May-09 21:00 07-May-09 23:00 253.44

Tennis / V Williams v A Radwanska : Match Odds 07-May-09 21:30 07-May-09 22:48 241.92

Tennis / Safina v Martinez-Sanchez : Match Odds 07-May-09 16:30 07-May-09 20:22 -0.01

Tennis / De Bakker v Hewitt : Match Odds 07-May-09 16:35 07-May-09 19:55 144.00

Tennis / Simon v Fognini : Match Odds 07-May-09 18:00 07-May-09 19:26 288.01

Tennis / Serra v Monaco : Match Odds 07-May-09 15:30 07-May-09 18:42 -413.04

Tennis / Clement v Cipolla : Match Odds 07-May-09 15:30 07-May-09 18:22 -600.00

Tennis / Azarenka v Kanepi : Match Odds 07-May-09 15:15 07-May-09 17:43 6.77

Tennis / Gicquel v Blake : Match Odds 07-May-09 15:45 07-May-09 17:21 408.95

Tennis / Benneteau v Brands : Match Odds 07-May-09 14:00 07-May-09 16:26 3.72

Tennis / Daniel v Ljubicic : Match Odds 07-May-09 14:15 07-May-09 16:07 -600.00

Tennis / Kuznetsova v Jankovic : Match Odds 07-May-09 14:00 07-May-09 15:50 512.85

Tennis / Groenefeld v Lisicki : Match Odds 07-May-09 13:00 07-May-09 13:55 -600.00

Tennis: -USD2,634.14 Total P&L: -USD2,634.14

All results of today...............1 retirement........

Lisicki = loser retired 2-6 :(

Kutznetsova = winner

Benneteau = scratch trade 2nd set

Ljubicic = loser :(

Blake = winner

Monaco = loser :(

Azarenka = scratch trade 1st set 4-4 with 8 breaks :(

Clement = loser :(

Simon = winner

Safina = scratch trade end of 2nd set

Hewitt = winner

Karlovic = winner

V.Williams = winner

V.Williams ..................................

I backed

V.Williams 1.42

Karlovic.....................

I backed

Karlovic 1.44

Hewitt..................................

I backed

Hewitt 1.25

Safina...................................

I backed

Safina 1.24

Simon.........................................................

I backed

Simon 1.50

Azarenka, Clement..................................

I backed

Azarenka 1.24

Clement 1.88

Blake, Monaco...........................

I backed

Blake 1.71

Monaco 1.30

Ljubicic........................

I backed

Ljubicic 1.29

Benneteau..............................

I backed

Benneteau 1.56

Problem with Gruss today...................

I have a problem with gruss software, thats the reason I can't take to many matches :(

Kutznetsova............................

I backed

Kutznetsova 1.89

Seppi no fill.......................................

no bet on Seppi, didn't get the fill :( Seppi right now 2-0

Seppi, Lisicki ...............................

I backed

Seppi 1.37

Lisicki 1.29

Wednesday, May 6, 2009

Today result..........................................

Tennis: USD58.78 Total P&L: USD58.78

Tennis Showing 1 - 8 of 8 markets of 431 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Fish v Navarro : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:30 06-May-09 18:34 240.47

Tennis / Makarova v Czink : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:15 06-May-09 18:17 -28.40

Tennis / Granollers v Troicki : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:30 06-May-09 17:49 236.16

Tennis / A Radwanska v Ivanovic : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:15 06-May-09 17:37 -12.41

Tennis / Kuznetsova v Pennetta : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:15 06-May-09 17:14 -8.51

Tennis / Kohlschreiber v Cilic : Match Odds 06-May-09 15:20 06-May-09 16:55 -768.02

Tennis / Govortsova v Wickmayer : Match Odds 06-May-09 14:00 06-May-09 15:58 -3.71

Tennis / Azarenka v Wozniacki : Match Odds 06-May-09 14:00 06-May-09 15:38 403.20



Tennis: -USD2,280.75 Total P&L: -USD2,280.75

All results of today..........................

Azarenka = winner

Wickmayer = scratch trade end of 2nd set

Andreev = no bet because Andreev retired in 1st set

Kutznetsova = scratch trade 3rd set

Makarova = scratch trade 3rd set

Kohlschreiber = loser :(

Troicki = winner

Ivanovic = scratch trade 3rd set

Fish = winner greened out at 1.03

Fish.........................

I backed

Fish 1.46

Troicki, Ivanovic.............................

I backed

Troicki 1.41

Ivanovic 1.42

Makarova ,Kohlschreiber..........................................

I backed

Makarova 1.61

Kohlschreiber 1.72

Kutznetsova........................................

I backed

Kutznetsova 1.39

Azarenka , Wickmayer, Andreev.......................

I backed

Azarenka 1.70

Wickmayer 1.61

Andreev 1.27

Yesterday result.............................

Tennis: -USD328.29 Total P&L: -USD328.29

Tennis Showing 1 - 19 of 19 markets of 423 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / A Radwanska v Rezai : Match Odds 05-May-09 16:45 06-May-09 00:28 -13.85

Tennis / Schiavone v Ivanovic : Match Odds 05-May-09 16:30 06-May-09 00:05 278.27

Tennis / Suarez Navarro v Petrova : Match Odds 05-May-09 15:15 05-May-09 23:31 -39.59

Tennis / Kuznetsova v Hantuchova : Match Odds 05-May-09 17:45 05-May-09 23:24 149.76

Tennis / Bartoli v Martinez Sanchez : Match Odds 05-May-09 15:15 05-May-09 22:44 -31.58

Tennis / Shvedova v Pennetta : Match Odds 05-May-09 15:15 05-May-09 22:20 144.00

Tennis / Monaco v Cuevas : Match Odds 05-May-09 16:45 05-May-09 22:19 144.00

Tennis / Vesnina v Zheng : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:00 05-May-09 21:00 368.60

Tennis / Querrey v Troicki : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:30 05-May-09 18:36 -8.05

Tennis / Navarro v Martin : Match Odds 05-May-09 15:30 05-May-09 18:34 -600.00

Tennis / Daniel v Canas : Match Odds 05-May-09 12:00 05-May-09 17:13 -36.86

Tennis / Peya v Benneteau : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:15 05-May-09 17:09 0.10

Tennis / Fernandez Brugues v Czink : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:15 05-May-09 16:43 230.88

Tennis / Serra v Junqueira : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:00 05-May-09 16:38 52.80

Tennis / Kranjinovic v Granollers : Match Odds 05-May-09 13:15 05-May-09 16:25 0.79

Tennis / Cornet v K Bondarenko : Match Odds 05-May-09 14:00 05-May-09 15:41 -918.00

Tennis / Makarova v Cetkovska : Match Odds 05-May-09 13:00 05-May-09 14:42 403.20

Tennis / Wickmayer v Kvitova : Match Odds 05-May-09 13:00 05-May-09 14:32 -822.00

Tennis / Bovina v Kudryavtseva : Match Odds 05-May-09 13:00 05-May-09 14:30 369.24


Tennis: -USD2,339.53 Total P&L: -USD2,339.53

Tuesday, May 5, 2009

all the results for today...........................

Canas = scratch trade 3rd set

Bovina = winner

Makarova = winner

Kvitova = loser :(

Cornet = loser :(

Zheng = winner

Serra = scratch trade 3rd set

Czink = winner

Troicki = scratch trade 3rd set

Martin = loser :(

Pennetta = winner

Bartoli = scratch trade 2nd set

Monaco = winner

S.Navarro = scratch trade 3rd set

Kutznetsova = winner

A.Radwanska = scratch trade 3rd set

Ivanovic = winner

Ivanovic.........................

I backed

Ivanovic 1.47

A.Radwanska ...............................

I backed

A.Radwanska 1.27

Kutznetsova........................

I backed

Kutznetsova 1.26

S.Navarro.........................

I backed

S.Navarro 1.84

Monaco, Bartoli .........................

I backed

Monaco 1.25

Bartoli 1.44

Pennetta ................

I backed

Pennetta 1.25

Martin...................

I backed

Martin 1.55

Troicki.....................

I backed

Troicki 1.47

Benneteau result.......................

Benneteau = scratch trade because the partly fill :(

Czink , Benneteau.......................

I backed

Czink 1.40

Benneteau 1.49 filled only with 1.42 :(

Cornet, Zheng, Serra..............................

I backed

Cornet 1.47

Zheng 1.73

Serra 1.31

Canas, Bovina, Makarova, Kvitova...........................

I backed

Canas 1.67

Bovina 1.70

Makarova 1.70

Kvitova 1.77

Granollers rollover from yesterday...................

rollover from yesterday

I backed

Granollers 1.37

and scratched the trade out because heavy rain. looks really bad for today, no play imho

Monday, May 4, 2009

Today result..........................

Tennis: USD738.72 Total P&L: USD738.72

Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 404 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Knapp v Dulko : Match Odds 04-May-09 19:15 04-May-09 20:50 161.28

Tennis / Fish v Gabashvili : Match Odds 04-May-09 15:30 04-May-09 20:00 385.67

Tennis / Chakvetadze v Medina Garrigues : Match Odds 04-May-09 18:00 04-May-09 19:17 -600.00

Tennis / Dechy v Zheng : Match Odds 04-May-09 15:15 04-May-09 18:50 148.91

Tennis / A Radwanska v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 04-May-09 16:30 04-May-09 18:45 144.00

Tennis / Vesnina v Craybas : Match Odds 04-May-09 15:15 04-May-09 18:27 -26.67

Tennis / Andujar v Gicquel : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:15 04-May-09 17:47 14.40

Tennis / Kiefer v Gulbis : Match Odds 04-May-09 15:30 04-May-09 17:32 -600.00

Tennis / Youzhny v Minar : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:15 04-May-09 17:04 322.57

Tennis / Razzano v Rybarikova : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:00 04-May-09 16:44 257.24

Tennis / Cornet v Sugiyama : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:00 04-May-09 15:58 288.00

Tennis / Szavay v Wozniacki : Match Odds 04-May-09 14:00 04-May-09 15:33 195.84

Tennis / Crivoi v Veic : Match Odds 04-May-09 13:00 04-May-09 15:15 40.63

Tennis / Cipolla v Pashanski : Match Odds 04-May-09 13:00 04-May-09 15:12 6.85


Tennis: -USD2,011.24 Total P&L: -USD2,011.24

M.Garrigues, A.Radwanska, Fish, Dulko results...........

M.Garrigues = loser :(

A.Radwanska = winner

Fish = winner

Dulko = winner

Dulko.................

I backed

Dulko 1.28

Granollers back and scratch..............................

I backed

Granollers 1.37

and scratched the trade out because heavy rain. looks really bad for today, no play imho

Fish............................

I backed

Fish 1.70

Vesnina, Gulbis results.......................

Vesnina = scratch trade 3rd set

Gulbis = loser :(

A.Radwanska , M.Garrigues ...............................

I backed

A.Radwanska 1.25

M.Garrigues 1.31

Zheng result.....................

Zheng = scratch trade

1st set because the partly fill

Zheng only partly fill ..................................

Zheng only partly fill at 1.29 for 143.75 :(

Cornet, Razzano, Wozniacki , Youzhny results.........

Cornet = winner

Razzano = winner

Wozniacki = winner

Youzhny = winner

Zheng...................

I backed

Zheng 1.29

Gicquel result..................................

Gicquel = scratch trade

1st set TB

Vesnina ................................

I backed

Vesnina 1.29

Gulbis ..................................

I backed

Gulbis 1.90

Youzhny............................

I backed

Youzhny 1.56

Cipolla result.......................

Cipolla = scratch trade

2nd set

Gicquel .....................................

I backed

Gicquel 1.64

Crivoi result...................

Crivoi = scratch trade

2nd set

Cornet, Razzano , Wozniacki ...................

I backed

Cornet 1.50

Razzano 1.46

Wozniacki 1.34

Crivoi.......................

I backed

Crivoi 1.40

Cipolla............................

I backed


Cipolla 1.75

Sunday, May 3, 2009

Today result..........................

Tennis: -USD1,687.34 Total P&L: -USD1,687.34

Tennis Showing 1 - 8 of 8 markets of 390 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Mauresmo v Martinez Sanchez : Match Odds 03-May-09 17:15 03-May-09 22:15 -600.00

Tennis / Bartoli v Peng : Match Odds 03-May-09 17:00 03-May-09 19:17 236.16

Tennis / Safina v Kuznetsova : Match Odds 03-May-09 16:45 03-May-09 18:19 9.91

Tennis / Shvedova v Stosur : Match Odds 03-May-09 15:30 03-May-09 18:00 -882.00

Tennis / Dushevina v Hantuchova : Match Odds 03-May-09 14:15 03-May-09 17:54 3.22

Tennis / Safarova v Koryttseva : Match Odds 03-May-09 14:15 03-May-09 17:25 1.52

Tennis / Bammer v Li : Match Odds 03-May-09 13:00 03-May-09 17:00 -600.00

Tennis / Keothavong v Suarez Navarro : Match Odds 03-May-09 13:00 03-May-09 16:20 143.85


Tennis: -USD2,749.96 Total P&L: -USD2,749.96

Mauresmo result.................

Mauresmo = loser :(

Mauresmo.............................

I backed

Mauresmo 1.40

Stosur, Safina results.............................

Stosur = loser :(


Safina = scratch trade 2nd set

Bartoli..............................

I backed

Bartoli 1.41

Hantuchova, Na Li results...............

Hantuchova = scratch trade because of partly fill

Na Li = loser :(

S.Navarro result...................

S.Navarro = winner

Stosur, Safina...................................

I backed

Stosur 1.69

Safina 1.74

Hantuchova partly fill...............................

Hantuchova only partly fill 11.40 :(

Safarova result........................................

Safarova = scratch trade

1st set TB

Hantuchova , Safarova..........................

I backed

Hantuchova 1.54

Safarova 1.55

S.Navarro, Na Li .......................

I backed

S.Navarro 1.25

Na Li 1.34

Saturday, May 2, 2009

Yesterday result.............................

Tennis: -USD1,012.91 Total P&L: -USD1,012.91

Tennis Showing 1 - 5 of 5 markets of 382 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Safina v Pennetta : Match Odds 02-May-09 19:30 02-May-09 21:39 172.62

Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Makarova : Match Odds 02-May-09 17:30 02-May-09 18:50 299.21

Tennis / Djokovic v Federer : Match Odds 02-May-09 14:30 02-May-09 18:01 23.73

Tennis / Kuznetsova v Dementieva : Match Odds 02-May-09 15:00 02-May-09 16:20 -888.00

Tennis / Vaidisova v Shvedova : Match Odds 02-May-09 14:15 02-May-09 15:51 -620.47


Tennis: -USD1,062.62 Total P&L: -USD1,062.62

Safina result.........................

Safina = winner

the break and price in 3rd set kept me in the match :)

Safina .........................

I backed

Safina 1.30

M.Garrigues result...............................

M.Garrigues = winner

M.Garrigues...............................

I backed

M.Garrigues 1.52

Djokovic result..............

Djokovic = scratch trade

2nd set

Dementieva, Vaidisova results..............

Dementieva = loser :(

Vaidisova = loser :(

Vaidisova , Djokovic , Dementieva......................

I backed

Vaidisova 1.58

Djokovic 1.74

Dementieva 1.77

Yesterday result..........................

Tennis: -USD888.60 Total P&L: -USD888.60

Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 377 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Jankovic v Pennetta : Match Odds 01-May-09 19:15 01-May-09 21:24 -600.00

Tennis / Kuznetsova v Dulko : Match Odds 01-May-09 16:15 01-May-09 18:57 316.46

Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Czink : Match Odds 01-May-09 17:15 01-May-09 18:06 258.94

Tennis / Makarova v Kleybanova : Match Odds 01-May-09 16:00 01-May-09 17:14 -864.00


Tennis: -USD49.71 Total P&L: -USD49.71

Jankovic result................

Jankovic = loser :(

could have scratched it (aftertiming)

Friday, May 1, 2009

Kutznetsova result.....................

Kutznetsova = winner

M.Garrigues result................

M.Garrigues = winner

6-0 and then Czink retired

Kleybanova result..................

Kleybanova = loser :(

M.Garrigues........................

I backed

M.Garrigues 1.45

Kutznetsova............................

I backed

Kutznetsova 1.55

Kleybanova.....................

I backed

Kleybanova 1.59

This was my posting in the Bf forum................

now that I am about 800 up, lets summarize.

373 initial 600$ trades

turnaround about 250000$

comission paid = about 1800$

7 weeks everyday

my selections are the favs and I try to take as many as I can handle.for example today I had 12 bets, and missed Federer match because I was buisy with trying to scratch 2 matches the same time. I had him on my list, and missed it. just for info.

tomorrow morning I will be out and I don't know when I will be back. it could be I will pause tomorrow. but lets see when I will be back.

now I am asking all the readers please post your opinion on the numbers that I mentioned above. maybe some stats guys? every comment is very much appreciated.

and lets be honest, who thought that I will not lose my bank? I think that everybody was very sceptic and didn't think that I will survive my bankroll. even the guys who supported me with well-meant postings.

I really know that everything can happen, and the next down move is around the corner, but I don't know when and how big it will be, but also the up move could hold many days. remember I bet on the favs and they tend to win a la longue. therefore I repeat myself, that the scratch trades are my winners.

thanks to all the readers and non posters and to the posting guys. it is always a help, even the critics are helpful.

discipline, patience and balls is needed for every strategy.

cheers

Thursday, April 30, 2009

Yesterday result................................

Tennis: USD1,047.89 Total P&L: USD1,047.89

Tennis Showing 1 - 12 of 12 markets of 373 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Pennetta v Petrova : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 21:45 01-May-09 00:46 443.06

Tennis / Gasquet v Verdasco : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 17:45 30-Apr-09 22:46 238.85

Tennis / Jankovic v Lisicki : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 19:15 30-Apr-09 21:58 -16.43

Tennis / Medina Garrigues v Dominguez Lino : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 17:45 30-Apr-09 21:39 -4.77

Tennis / Simon v Zverev : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 16:30 30-Apr-09 20:31 -600.00

Tennis / Kuznetsova v Li : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 16:15 30-Apr-09 19:26 -72.41

Tennis / Del Potro v Wawrinka : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 15:30 30-Apr-09 19:01 -164.81

Tennis / Czink v Hrandecka : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 16:30 30-Apr-09 18:42 350.99

Tennis / Makarova v Domachowska : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 15:15 30-Apr-09 17:21 235.91

Tennis / Szavay v Dementieva : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 15:00 30-Apr-09 16:49 4.56

Tennis / Monaco v Cilic : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 14:00 30-Apr-09 15:47 374.01

Tennis / Hercog v Kleybanova : Match Odds 30-Apr-09 14:00 30-Apr-09 15:40 258.93


Tennis: USD838.89 Total P&L: USD838.89

Pennetta result.............................

Pennetta = winner

Verdasco result...........................

Verdasco = winner

Pennetta.............................

I backed

Pennetta 1.77

Jankovic result.........................

Jankovic = scratch trade

2nd set

Jankovic 7-5 and 5-6

Czink result........................

Czink = winner

Verdasco...............................

I backed

Verdasco 1.44

Simon result...............................

Simon = loser :(

M. Garrigues result...............................

M. Garrigues = scratch trade

1st set TB

Simon.......................................

I backed

Simon 1.39

Jankovic ............................

I backed

Jankovic 1.42

Medina Garrigues..............

I backed

Medina Garrigues 1.25

Makarova result

Makarova = winner

Kutznetsova result.................

Kutznetsova = scratch trade

2nd set

wawrinka result..................

Wawrinka = scratch trade

2nd set TB

Czink.........................

I backed

Czink 1.61

Kutznetsova..........................

I backed

Kutznetsova 1.76

Dementieva result............

Dementieva = scratch trade

1st set TB

Makarova , Wawrinka....................

I backed

Makarova 1.41

Wawrinka 1.84

Kleybanova, Monaco results.................

Kleybanova = winner

Monaco = winner

Dementieva......................

I backed

Dementieva 1.30

Monaco........................

I backed

Monaco 1.65

Kleybanova........................

I backed

Kleybanova 1.45

Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Today result.....................

Tennis: USD373.99 Total P&L: USD373.99

Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 361 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Gasquet v Gulbis : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 17:45 29-Apr-09 23:38 -132.00

Tennis / Zverev v Mathieu : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 19:00 29-Apr-09 22:07 -600.00

Tennis / Lisicki v Schnyder : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 20:30 29-Apr-09 22:03 253.18

Tennis / Stepanek v F Lopez : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 19:00 29-Apr-09 21:53 437.30

Tennis / Simon v Fognini : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 16:30 29-Apr-09 21:22 -3.97

Tennis / Jankovic v Cibulkova : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 19:15 29-Apr-09 20:38 166.89

Tennis / Youzhny v Wawrinka : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 16:00 29-Apr-09 20:12 -30.88

Tennis / Pennetta v Chakvetadze : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 18:30 29-Apr-09 19:40 201.38

Tennis / Pavlyuchenkova v Czink : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 13:15 29-Apr-09 18:13 -8.33

Tennis / Stepanek v Serra : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 14:45 29-Apr-09 18:07 224.42

Tennis / Mathieu v Ferrer : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 14:45 29-Apr-09 17:43 -63.38

Tennis / Robredo v Kohlschreiber : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 14:00 29-Apr-09 16:20 345.24

Tennis / Soderling v Crivoi : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 14:00 29-Apr-09 15:58 184.14

Tennis / Vinci v Hercog : Match Odds 29-Apr-09 12:00 29-Apr-09 15:14 -600.00


Tennis: -USD209.00 Total P&L: -USD209.00

Jankovic, Stepanek , Lisicki results.....................

Jankovic = winner

Stepanek = winner

Lisicki = winner

Gasquet result.........................

Gasquet = scratch trade

3rd set and Gasquet had the trainer ans 2nd match for him on this day.

Mathieu result....................

Mathieu = loser :(

winning the first set 6-3 then up 1 break in 2nd set and going to a TB

5-4 up in the TB and losing the TB and 3rd set losing 6-0 :(

I had yesterday the same losing pattern in the Almagro match

I call it a bad beat, but Iam learning :)

Gasquet....................................

I backed

Gasquet 1.56

Lisicki....................

I backed

Lisicki 1.44

Stepanek.......................................

I backed

Stepanek 1.76

Simon result..................

Simon = scratch trade

1st set TB

Mathieu.........................

I backed

Mathieu 1.49

Wawrinka, Pennetta , Stepanek results.................

Wawrinka = scratch trade 2nd set

Pennetta = winner

Stepanek = winner

Jankovic.........................

I backed

Jankovic 1.29

Simon............................

I backed

Simon 1.50

Pennetta............................................

I backed

Pennetta 1.35

Wawrinka......................

I backed

Wawrinka 1.29

Pavlyuchenkova result...............

Pavlyuchenkova = scratch trade


3rd set

Ferrer result........................

Ferrer = scratch trade

2nd set

Robredo, Soderling results...............

Robredo = winner

Soderling = winner

Pavlyuchenkova.............................

I backed

Pavlyuchenkova 1.42

Vinci result..................

Vinci = loser :(

bad attidute from Vinci, no more backing on Vinci.

Robredo, Soderling .......................

I backed

Robredo 1.60

Soderling 1.32

Vinci........................

I backed

Vinci 1.37

Two rollovers again................................

two rollovers again, because of rain in rome.

backed

Stepanek 1.39

Ferrer 1.27

Yesterday result...................

Tennis: USD121.51 Total P&L: USD121.51

Tennis Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets of 347 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Almagro v Gulbis : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 14:15 29-Apr-09 01:27 -600.00

Tennis / Seppi v Querrey : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 15:15 28-Apr-09 23:17 45.33

Tennis / Zverev v Berdych : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 13:30 28-Apr-09 22:07 -25.70

Tennis / Groenefeld v Dementieva : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 19:15 28-Apr-09 21:27 58.07

Tennis / Soderling v Granollers : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 13:00 28-Apr-09 19:34 345.24

Tennis / Robredo v Safin : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 14:00 28-Apr-09 19:31 -78.44

Tennis / Szavay v Sugiyama : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 15:45 28-Apr-09 19:30 -54.54

Tennis / Wozniak v A Radwanska : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 15:00 28-Apr-09 16:27 149.60

Tennis / Peng v Li : Match Odds 28-Apr-09 13:15 28-Apr-09 14:29 281.95


Tennis: -USD582.99 Total P&L: -USD582.99

Tuesday, April 28, 2009

Almagro result..................

Almagro = loser :(

Almagro.......................

I backed

Almagro 1.43

Seppi result

Seppi = scratch trade


3rd set

Ferrer , Stepanek.....................

I backed

Ferrer 1.27

Stepanek 1.39

Dementieva result................

Dementieva = scratch trade


3rd set

Seppi.....................

I backed

Seppi 1.44

Soderling result.................

Soderling = winner

Dementieva............

I backed

Dementieva 1.20 partly fill only yet now full!!!

Szavay result.................

Szavay = scratch trade

3rd set

Na Li, A.Radwanska results...................

Na Li = winner

A.Radwanska = winner

Berdych result..................

Berdych = scratch trade

2nd set

Robredo result.................

Robredo = scratch trade

end of 2nd set start of 3rd set

Berdych ..........................

I backed

Berdych 1.34

Szavay........................

I backed

Szavay 1.50

A.Radwanska ..............................

I backed


A.Radwanska 1.26

Na Li....................

I backed

Na Li 1.49

Two rollovers from yesterday...............................

two rollovers from yesterday because of rain

backed

Soderling 1.60

Robredo 1.33

Monday, April 27, 2009

Today result..........................

Tennis: USD630.85 Total P&L: USD630.85

Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 338 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Suarez Navarro v Azarenko : Match Odds 27-Apr-09 21:00 27-Apr-09 22:47 184.12

Tennis / Crivoi v Blake : Match Odds 27-Apr-09 15:15 27-Apr-09 17:05 20.93

Tennis / Cipolla v Cilic : Match Odds 27-Apr-09 14:00 27-Apr-09 15:33 230.15

Tennis / Kiefer v Monaco : Match Odds 27-Apr-09 14:00 27-Apr-09 15:28 195.65


Tennis: -USD704.50 Total P&L: -USD704.50

Azarenka result................

Azarenka = winner

Azarenka...........................

I backed

Azarenka 1.32

Soderling, Robredo .................................

I backed

Soderling 1.60

Robredo 1.33

Blake result..........................

Blake = scratch trade

1st set 5-6 loss of set or TB possible

Blake.................

I backed

Blake 1.71

Cilic , Monaco results...................

Cilic = winner

Monaco = winner

Cilic, Monaco.......................

I backed

Cilic 1.40

Monaco 1.34

Sunday, April 26, 2009

Today result....................

Tennis: USD340.17 Total P&L: USD340.17

Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 334 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / 4. Mauresmo v Hantuchova : Match Odds 26-Apr-09 15:15 26-Apr-09 19:52 2.57

Tennis / Ferrero v Zverev : Match Odds 26-Apr-09 14:15 26-Apr-09 18:43 2.88

Tennis / 3. Cornet v Cibulkova : Match Odds 26-Apr-09 14:00 26-Apr-09 17:00 0.99

Tennis / 3. Groenefeld v Zheng : Match Odds 26-Apr-09 12:00 26-Apr-09 13:48 333.73


Tennis: -USD1,335.35 Total P&L: -USD1,335.35

Mauresmo result............................

Mauresmo = scratch trade

Mauresmo.............................

I backed

Mauresmo 1.41

partly fill only 15.99 :(

Zheng , Cibulkova, Ferrero results.........................

Zheng = winner

Cibulkova = scratch trade 3rd set

Ferrero = scratch trade 1st set TB

Ferrero............................

I backed

Ferrero 1.34

Schiavone match cancelled.........................

Schiavone match cancelled, now she is playing against Pavlyuchenkova.

no bet!

Schiavone...............................

I backed

Schiavone 1.40

Cibulkova.....................

I backed

Cibulkova 1.77

Zheng...........................

I backed

Zheng 1.58

Follow up answer from bib regarding the TB..........

bib 25 Apr 20:16


You're welcome, yes some research is crucial - I just checked some numbers - one of the players with good tiebreak records - Tsonga went 14-5 this year (8-1 on his favorite indoor surface) while Canas has lost his last 9 tiebreaks. What I mean by this is that a tiebreak isn't really a coin toss, if you take the important factors into consideration, you can shift the coin toss in your favor

Saturday, April 25, 2009

Today result..............................

Tennis: USD267.15 Total P&L: USD267.15

Tennis Showing 1 - 3 of 3 markets of 330 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / 2. Schiavone v Kuznetsova : Match Odds 25-Apr-09 14:15 25-Apr-09 17:13 11.52

Tennis / 1. Lisicki v Zheng : Match Odds 25-Apr-09 13:00 25-Apr-09 15:15 2.45

Tennis / 1. Pennetta v Chakvetadze : Match Odds 25-Apr-09 13:00 25-Apr-09 14:12 253.18


Tennis: -USD1,675.52 Total P&L: -USD1,675.52

I missed the Gonzalez match...................

I missed

the Gonzalez back :(

we had visitors, and coming now to the pc and seeing what I missed

3-1 Gonzalez

Kutznetsova result..............................

Kutznetsova = scratch trade

after 1-1 in sets

Pennetta result..........................

Pennetta = winner

Kutznetsova...................................

I backed

Kutznetsova 1.53

Lisicki result..............

Lisicki = scratch trade

2nd set 6-4 1-4

very good posting from bib in the BF forum regarding the TB..............

bib
25 Apr 10:28

bib,

horselover asking Curlyblues

I forgot one question. what are you thinking about the TB? for me it is like a toss of a coin. sometimes it depends on the players, but in general?

Yes - the tiebreak is quite a sensitive subject and given your exit strategy I can see why you choose to avoid the first set tiebreak if you backed the favorite. Two good indicators as to what the outcome of the tiebreak will be are current form and tiebreak record. Tiebreak record is very important as there are players that are known to play their best in a tiebreak and you will see that the market will stop supporting them even if they are favorite and they go into a first set tiebreak for example. To give some names - Murray, Djokovic, Federer, Tsonga, Roddick, Berdych and a few more.
There are some pitfalls though, as form matters too, for example when Canas was in good form, he would win a lot of tiebreaks but as his level started to drop, he would lose 60-70 percent of the tiebreaks played. Again - it is your job as a punter to check these stats.

my answer

bib,

thanks for your answer and explanation regarding the TB. your explanation supports actually my thinking to take the TB as a coin toss.
even if one could do better in some TB's if he did the research like you are proposing.may I ask if you are familiar with ROI and the numbers that could give some insight?

cheers

Lisicki match partly fill.......................

Lisicki match,

I got a partly fill only at 1.54 with 96.40 :(

3-0 for Lisicki right now

Lisicki, Pennetta...................................

I backed

Lisicki 1.54

Pennetta 1.44

Friday, April 24, 2009

Today result.....................

Tennis: USD400.08 Total P&L: USD400.08

Tennis Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets of 327 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Gonzalez v Verdasco : Match Odds 24-Apr-09 17:45 24-Apr-09 20:23 26.07

Tennis / Robredo v Ferrer : Match Odds 24-Apr-09 15:30 24-Apr-09 17:40 374.01


Tennis: -USD1,942.67 Total P&L: -USD1,942.67

Verdasco, Ferrer results.........

Ferrer = winner

Verdasco = scratch trade

2nd set

Verdasco ................................

I backed

Verdasco 1.61

Ferrer...........................

I backed

Ferrer 1.65

Interesting posting from bib in the BF forum........

bib
24 Apr 11:26


Hi, I could give some thoughts here as I have extensive tennis knowledge.

First of all I am not so sure about your strategy here, you are backing mostly short priced favorites and scratch the trade when they get into trouble. For me that means that the only way to win a bet is if the short priced favorite is a train to 1.01. I haven't checked the statistics but for me, from a trader's point of view - it's not very often the case.Take Almagro's last two matches before yesterday.

You could have backed him @ 1.4 and 1.5 pre match, and he won them. But he traded at odds of over 7 in each of them. That's where you're missing out on a lot of value. I wouldn't fancy my chances of making profits backing a favorite and only winning the bet IF he is a train to 1.01. Markets usually know when a fav wins like that, and you get no value in the odds - Wozniacki for example. She wins a lot of straight sets matches but the odds on her are a joke.Also, the quality of the picks is debatable, IF you want 1.01 trains, you have to be very very careful with the selection, and this is where I think you come up short.

Also you need much better loss management, I saw you lost 15% of your bank in a single day, you cannot afford losses like that.Hope you take these thoughts into consideration when you decide to make changes to your strategy.

Cheers.


my answer

bib,

thanks for posting and particularly with regard to your tennis knowledge. At one point I have to agree with CurlyBlues that if a player is losing the first set, and a break down I don't want to sit in and wait for him winning the match. then I will try to get my scratch, even if he lost the first set thats enough for me to go for the exit. Sometimes for example yesterday the Verdasco match, I will try to stay in the match, because the price is allowing it. this depends on the mass price behaviour.

Regarding the quality of picks I will not argue with you, because you are 100% right. Here is avery big point to optimize the strategy.

My point is that I don't know if the fav will win at all, in gerneral nobody knows it. I will go with the fav as long it is an easy match, like you said a 1.01 train. If I see that it is going the hard way, I try to find the exit. I am still convinced, that the scratch trades are actually my winners at the end of the story.

Interesting is that until today nobody gave me an answer regarding the numbers, for example I had more than 300 initial 600 bets, around 230000$ turnaround and I am down 2300$ = 1% and around 1700$ paid commission. not to mention the retirements. How many trades or turnaround do I need that those numbers will be meaningful/convincing?To tell you the truth, if I will not lose any money here I am very much satisfied.

Again thank you very much for trying to help,it is very much appreciated.

I am convinced that posting like yours and some of CurlyBlues :) are always helpful in some way.

Yesterday result..............................

Tennis: USD616.06 Total P&L: USD616.06


Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 325 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Berdych v Verdasco : Match Odds 23-Apr-09 19:00 23-Apr-09 21:49 172.63

Tennis / Robredo v Andreev : Match Odds 23-Apr-09 15:30 23-Apr-09 17:49 21.32

Tennis / Stepanek v Wawrinka : Match Odds 23-Apr-09 12:30 23-Apr-09 14:58 21.57

Tennis / Almagro v Nalbandian : Match Odds 23-Apr-09 13:00 23-Apr-09 14:18 400.54



Tennis: -USD2,342.75 Total P&L: -USD2,342.75

Thursday, April 23, 2009

Verdasco result..............

Verdasco = winner

Verdasco...................................

I backed

Verdasco 1.30

Robredo result..........................

Robredo = scratch trade

Nalbandian result........................

Nalbandian = winner

Robredo............................

I backed

Robredo 1.73

Wawrinka result..........................

Wawrinka = scratch trade

2nd set

Nalbandian ........................................

I backed

Nalbandian 1.71

Wawrinka............................

I backed

Wawrinka 1.49


half an hour ago, now he drifted to 1.63

Yesterday result.................................

Tennis: USD452.64 Total P&L: USD452.64

Tennis Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets 321 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Ventura v F Lopez : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 18:00 22-Apr-09 22:06 -132.31

Tennis / Gimeno Traver v Monaco : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 16:30 22-Apr-09 21:19 143.85

Tennis / Youzhny v Wawrinka : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 15:15 22-Apr-09 19:44 195.64

Tennis / Almagro v Chela : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 15:15 22-Apr-09 19:37 -11.39

Tennis / Soderling v Starace : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 14:00 22-Apr-09 17:59 -600.00

Tennis / F Gonzalez v Acasuso : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 14:00 22-Apr-09 16:56 212.89

Tennis / Stepanek v Tipsarevic : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 12:45 22-Apr-09 15:36 454.57

Tennis / Kunitsyn v Nalbandian : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 12:45 22-Apr-09 15:23 201.39

Tennis / Berdych v Hernandez : Match Odds 22-Apr-09 11:30 22-Apr-09 13:43 -12.00


Tennis: -USD2,958.81 Total P&L: -USD2,958.81

Wednesday, April 22, 2009

Wawrinka, Monaco results............

Wawrinka = winner

Monaco = winner

F.Lopez result................

F.Lopez = scratch trade

2nd set

Monaco................

I backed

Monaco 1.25

F.Lopez...................

I backed

F.Lopez 1.60

Almagro result...................

Almagro = scratch trade

2nd set TB

Soderling result....................

Soderling = loser :(

was to convinced that Starace will lose. aftertiming is telling me, that the scratch was the way to go.

Wawrinka....................

I backed

Wawrinka 1.34

Almagro..............

I backed

Almagro 1.55

F.Gonzalez result..............

F.Gonzalez = winner

Nalbandian, Stepanek result...............

Nalbandian = winner

Stepanek = winner

F.Gonzalez, Soderling.....................

I backed

F.Gonzalez 1.37

Soderling 1.45

Nalbandian, Stepanek..........................

I backed

Nalbandian 1.35

Stepanek 1.79

Berdych result.....................................

Berdych = scratch trade

3rd set

Berdych..........................

I backed

Berdych 1.47

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Today result..........................................

Tennis: USD440.54 Total P&L: USD440.54

Tennis Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets of 312 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Hernych v Gasquet : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 16:30 21-Apr-09 23:40 -67.56

Tennis / Monaco v Safin : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 19:00 21-Apr-09 22:10 339.49

Tennis / N Lapentti v Mathieu : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 15:15 21-Apr-09 22:05 -98.46

Tennis / Youzhny v Troicki : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 15:15 21-Apr-09 21:19 -0.01

Tennis / Soderling v Gabashvili : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 16:30 21-Apr-09 20:16 276.19

Tennis / Stepanek v Garcia Lopez : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 14:00 21-Apr-09 19:44 4.10

Tennis / Canas v Clement : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 12:45 21-Apr-09 14:54 -46.15

Tennis / Martin v Andreev : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 12:45 21-Apr-09 14:34 241.67

Tennis / Hernandez v Schwank : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 11:30 21-Apr-09 12:58 391.27

Tennis / Fognini v Gimeno Traver : Match Odds 21-Apr-09 11:30 21-Apr-09 12:44 -600.00


Tennis: -USD3,411.45 Total P&L: -USD3,411.45

Gasquet result...........................

Gasquet = scratch trade

2nd set

Gasquet...........................

I backed

Gasquet 1.34

Mathieu result..................................

Mathieu = scratch trade


2nd set

Monaco ............................

I backed

Monaco 1.59

Soderling result.........................

Soderling = winner

Mathieu ................................

I back

Mathieu 1.90

Stepanek result..................................

Stepanek = scratch trade

3rd set 2-2 0-15

Troicki result......................

Troicki = scratch trade

5-4 rainbreak and immediate break, it looked very much that there will be a TB. I scratched the trade.

1set 5-5

Soderling .........................................

I backed

Soderling 1.48

Troicki ..................................

I backed

Troicki 1.90

Stepanek ..........................

I backed

Stepanek 1.41

Andreev result........................

Andreev = winner

Canas result...............................

Canas = scratch trade

1st set TB

Hernandez result....................

Hernandez = winner

Canas , Andreev...........................

I backed

Canas 1.44

Andreev 1.42

List of a few players I am not backing anymore........

Davidenko

Schuettler

Llodra

Fognini

Starace

Fognini result.............

Fognini = loser :(

Fognini , Hernandez........................

I backed

Fognini 1.43

Hernandez 1.68

Monday, April 20, 2009

Today result.......................

Tennis: -USD206.52 Total P&L: -USD206.52

Tennis Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets of 302 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Gil v Lu : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 16:30 20-Apr-09 20:19 172.62

Tennis / Riba Madrid v Kukushkin : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 15:15 20-Apr-09 19:29 -600.00

Tennis / Chela v Bellucci : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 15:15 20-Apr-09 18:57 28.07

Tennis / Almagro v Hanescu : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 15:30 20-Apr-09 18:31 212.90

Tennis / Gulbis v Starace : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 14:00 20-Apr-09 17:36 -20.11

Tennis / Seppi v Andreev : Match Odds 20-Apr-09 11:30 20-Apr-09 13:53 0.00


Tennis: -USD3,851.99 Total P&L: -USD3,851.99

Berdych result.....................oponent retired 5-2.....

Berdych =

Vassallo-Arguello retired at 2-5 :( :(

Gil result..........................

Gil = winner

Riba-Madrid result.....................

Riba-Madrid = loser :(

Gil......................

I backed

Gil 1.30

Berdych................

I backed

Berdych = 1.71

Chela result................................

Chela = scratch trade

Almagro result................ winner by retirement

Almagro = winner


Hanscu retired 6-3 6-7 2-2

the 2nd retirement in my favour

Riba-Madrid..............................

I backed

Riba-madrid 1.60

Gulbis result.....................

Gulbis = scratch trade

Chela..................

I backed

Chela 1.72

Almagro...........

I backed

Almagro 1.37

Gulbis......................

I backed

Gulbis 1.73

Andreev result..................

Andreev = scratch trade

Andreev..............

I backed

Andreev 1.59

Sunday, April 19, 2009

Today result........................

Tennis: -USD590.98 Total P&L: -USD590.98

Tennis Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets of 296 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Wozniacki v Lisicki : Match Odds 19-Apr-09 20:00 19-Apr-09 21:35 -600.00

Tennis / Kirilenko v Vinci : Match Odds 19-Apr-09 14:00 19-Apr-09 15:22 9.02


Tennis: -USD3,645.47 Total P&L: -USD3,645.47

Wozniacki................

I backed

Wozniacki

Kirilenko result.........................

Kirilenko = scratch trade

terrible match by Kirilenko

Kirilenko........................

I backed

Kirilenko 1.50

MROP's posting in the BF forum................

MissingRibOfPrince 19 Apr 00:58

There is none as horselover has said himself. Horselover what would the profit be if you layed the odds on as your opening trade, have you gone back over the results?. Your losses would be smaller and more frequent but i'd imagine its a better way to go about it.

my answer


MROP,

I can't remember that I have talked at some stage about an edge.if I understand you right, you mean that I should reverse my strategy and instead of backing, I should lay every selection.

I personally need for every market position an exit strategy. this is one reason I couldn't do it. I even can't test it, because of this. and as I am already an old guy, I know that if a system has a downdraw people tend to tell other people or themselve, that if I lose this way, I need only to reverse it and go against it.
believe me or not, thats what I did when I was the first time (40 Years ago) in a casino. I can tell you thats not the way to handle a strategy. even if it is a bad one.

the panic reactions after a loss is a very common reaction in the stock and betting exchange.for now I will stick to my strategy. I think that the only optimization could be a better knowledge of my selections.

cheers and thanks for posting

Question in the BF forum............

McChicken_Sandwich 19 Apr 00:54


No offence, but I dont get where your edge is
.

my answer

legitimate question. I can't tell you, because you don't know my exit and scratch strategy . I don't want to give away the whole strategy. I hope you will understand this.

but lets wait a few weeks and see the P&L in relation to the turnaround. then maybe you or some stats experts will tell me if I have an edge.

right now I have about 280 initial 600 bets and I am only 3000 down. 4 retirements and some bad beats. ah almost forgot the commision.

I need to keep my discipline and patience, and everything will be fine. there will be much better days, imho.

cheers

Saturday, April 18, 2009

Yesterday result..................

Tennis: -USD939.33 Total P&L: -USD939.33

Tennis Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets of 294 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Bartoli v Lisicki : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 21:15 19-Apr-09 00:24 -852.00

Tennis / Dementieva v Wozniacki : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 20:00 18-Apr-09 23:07 -30.21

Tennis / Suarez Navarro v Kirilenko : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 15:45 18-Apr-09 20:30 -600.00

Tennis / Schiavone v Vinci : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 15:30 18-Apr-09 17:50 3.12

Tennis / Djokovic v Wawrinka : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 14:30 18-Apr-09 17:14 21.90

Tennis / Malek v Suarez Navarro : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 12:30 18-Apr-09 14:21 172.62

Tennis / Martinez Sanchez v Kirilenko : Match Odds 18-Apr-09 11:30 18-Apr-09 12:52 345.24


Tennis: -USD3,054.49 Total P&L: -USD3,054.49

Bartoli result......................

Bartoli = loser :(

Bartoli...............................

I backed

Bartoli 1.71

Dementieva result......................

Dementieva = scratch trade

S.Navarro result...........................

S.Navarro = loser :(

Dementieva........................

I backed

Dementieva 1.72

S.Navarro...................

I backed

S.Navarro 1.56

Schiavone result...................

Schiavone = scratch trade

I could take 1.05 in the 2nd set, I had those situations a few times.maybe I should green out in those situations?

Djokovic result.......................

Djokovic = scratch trade

2nd set

Schiavone.....................

I backed

Schiavone 1.79

S.Navarro result.............

S.Navarro = winner

Djokovic ............................

I backed

Djokovic 1.38

Kirilenko result...................

Kirilenko = winner

Momentum or price................

another example that sometimes I stick to the match even in a 3rd set is the Kirilenko v Martinez Sanchez, but it is not the momentum, it is the price.again, this I call discretionary trading.

I forgot to mention that sometimes the price is keeping me in the match, even in 1set and TB

Roger Oasis posting from the BF forum.........

Seems like a good day for you,
horselover, plus a retirement that went your way.I'll reply to the points you raised tomorrow as I'm too tiired after a long day at the office today and don't want to type something that I later re-read and think - "Oh hell, I didn't mean it like that".My initial thoughts were based round using more stats.i.e. Which favourite players regularly win - but take 3 sets to do it and you might be scratching too early. From what I have read, this happenms more in women's tennis. I know Murray used to be famous for making hard work of his matches.What I mean is are you scratching too early with favourites who take 3 sets to win?I'll stop there as I'm just adding more sentences trying to make my meaning clear.Thanks very much for your kind comments, they are appreciated, believe me.I think you are very brave to openly post your plan and strategy - and it has been already said, leave yourself open to abuse.Also hello to Layem and payem - the Rodger mistake is forgiven - providing I can call you Payem and layem!
Nighty-night.

my answer

Roger OASIS,

I am sure You earned Your beer and a quiet evening. I am already retired. regarding the retirements,let me explain my point of view. lets take the retirement from yesterday, it happened when my selection was up 1st set and 1:0. I couldnt lose in this match anyway. Dementieva was 1.28, I will need 2-3 retirements for each retirement against me.

I personally dont think that I will get so many retirements to equalize the retirements against me. I have to eat it as it comes You are 100% right that I need to use the stats that You mentioned. but as I said , I like stats, but I cant work with excel to program it the way I would need it. those stats would be 100% very helpful in any way.

what I am doing now, is experience only. over the years I followed the tennis prices and saw reccurring price movements. especially the panic movements (over and under reactions).the scratch trade is for me the most important trade, even if I scratch sometimes to early, but who knowswhat is to early? this we know only after the match. I am still convinced that a scratch to early is not hurting me.
I also use Gruss.

thanks again for the posting and trying to help. and thumbs up for Your sentence:

"Good of you to post and i do like a thread where we can exchange these ideas, experiences and strategies without being abusive"

Posting from CurlyBlues from the BF forum........

CurlyBlues 17 Apr 22:55

I've already suggested atleast once to horselover that he's happy to scratch with momentum when his player has been winning and yet he scratches against momentum when his player comes from behind and perhaps this is something he could look at. Perhaps you will take the time to explain this thoroughly. Favourite backers have done well today.

my answer

if You take yesterday as an example, Nalbandian,Verdasco and Bolleli lost their match, and I would not be in + if I would let those matches run to the end.a TB for me is like a coin toss, and there are only few exceptions like Roddick, Murray, Isner etc. (sure the ground of play is imprtant)the same is with the 3rd set, for me it is mostly not always a toss of a coin. but also here the discretionary trade is an important part.every day I am learning more and more with every match.I dont like players or someone else coming from behind :)

anyway thanks for the well meant contribution.

S.Navarro............

I backed

S.Navarro 1.30

Kirilenko rollover......................

Kirilenko rollover to today

backed Kirilenko 1.60

Yesterday result........................

Tennis: USD1,792.82 Total P&L: USD1,792.82


Tennis Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets of 287 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Vesnina v Lisicki : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 22:30 18-Apr-09 00:03 506.35

Tennis / Razzano v Wozniacki : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 21:15 17-Apr-09 22:47 183.94

Tennis / A Murray v Davydenko : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 16:45 17-Apr-09 21:55 34.26

Tennis / Dementieva v Cibulkova : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 20:00 17-Apr-09 21:10 160.94

Tennis / Safarova v Schiavone : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 14:00 17-Apr-09 16:58 511.57

Tennis / Verdasco v Djokovic : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 13:00 17-Apr-09 16:03 -48.78

Tennis / Yakimova v Vinci : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 13:00 17-Apr-09 14:43 402.36

Tennis / Nalbandian v Davydenko : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 11:30 17-Apr-09 14:19 20.94

Tennis / Bolelli v Ljubicic : Match Odds 17-Apr-09 11:30 17-Apr-09 13:38 21.24



Tennis: -USD2,115.16 Total P&L: -USD2,115.16

Friday, April 17, 2009

Lisicki result...................

Lisicki = winner

Wozniacki result.................

Wozniacki = winner

Lisicki ................................

I backed

Lisicki 1.88

retirements count................

3 retirements against me. one of those was Llodra after leading 1st set and retired :(

S. Cohen-Aloro retired against Malek 0-5 :( I was on Malek

today Cibulkova retired 4-6 0-1 I was on Dementieva 1.28

Wozniacki .........................

I backed

Wozniacki 1.32

Dementieva result............

Dementieva = winner

Cibulkova retired 4-6 0-1

Quote 1.28

Murray result............................

Murray = scratch trade

1st set TB

Dementieva..................

I backed

Dementieva 1.28

Murray........................

I backed

Murray 1.64

Vinci, Schiavone results........................

Vinci = winner

Schiavone = winner

Verdasco result.......................

Verdasco = scratch trade

Verdasco -80.32

Djoko - 18.78

now

Verdasco -43.12

Djoko -48.78

Kirilenko, Schiavone ...............................

I backed

Schiavone 1.89 no fill yet

Kirilenko 1.60

I backed Kirilenko yesterday, because I didn't know if I will have time this morning. a good example not to back a day before. its the last time I did it. promised :)

Verdasco...........................

I backed

Verdasco 1.93

Vinci..............

I backed

Vinci 1.70

Bolleli, Nalbandian results.........................

Bolleli = scratch trade

Nalbandian = scratch trade

2 matches from yesterday are today. Bolleli, Nalbandian.......

I backed

Bolleli 1.73

Nalbandian 1.82

my answer to Roger OASIS...................

Roger OASIS

first of all a big thank You and hats off for the posting.

one can see how well-meant this posting is. very much appreciated. I copied the posting to my blog.

it looks that You are a good stats guy.

the day You took as an example was a very bad day for favs.but this doesn't happen everyday. but I also understand Your point. the problem is that I can'tlower the loss max of 1100 in case of the 600 initial prematch bet.if I lower the initial 600 bet to for example 400 so the loss will be lower but also the winnings in relation to this. it will stay the same by numbers.

the only thing what one could do is to put more thoughts in the selections. but here we are thinking the same as I see. as I am not a tennis expert I take every fav and restricted it only to agiven price range.

writing this I have to say that there is also the possibility totake only the high priced fav. this I need to check if it makes sense, because the winners will be less and I have to compare it to the losers. I think You mentioned it in a posting before. anyway good to see that You found a way to optimize Your strategy.

may I ask what software are You using for the lay of the field?

hats off again for the posting

another interesting posting from the betfair forum.........

Roger OASIS
17 Apr 01:15


Sorry to see this horselover:
Tennis: -USD1,501.90 Total P&L: -USD1,501.90

I know you want to stick with your current strategy but look at the analysis:
-996
-936
-911
-600
-17
-13
0 0
26
36
48
144
189
218
218
287
386
419
---------
1,861

Simply, your 7 highest winnings amounts are only covering the top 2 losses.

I speak from some experience of a similar system as for 9 months now, I have manually noted the lowest price that horses traded at - without winning - in all U.K. and Ireland markets.

I have have stats now for over 5,000 races and the curved back to prove it!I wanted a system where my own thoughts/views/knowledge did not sway me and horse-racing fitted the bill as i know very little about it and have purposefully maintained that.Similar to you when you said that other posters know more about tennis than you.

I now lay the field at certaiin courses and at certain types of races but was puzzled after several months, why I was not winning more often, even after discovering other factors along the way such as Irish races often have liitle liquidity, Sunday races can also be poor etc etc - perhaps similar to in your case, unusual number of retirements.

So I analysed my spread-sheets, and found I was laying too high because I wanted 'safety'.So if the most profitable lay would be 1.30, I would then lay at 1.50 as I felt covered by the 20 pts gap. If it was 1.45, then I would lay at 1.65.
As a person, I feel more comfortable if I can win smaller amounts regularly than one large win followed by several small losses. We all have our quirks and that by nature is me.

But, I've had to change my tactics and now lay a lot lower - and hence much nearer the most profitable figure - and my profit levels have improved.There were 2 similar races yesterday, where my most profitable lay was 1.17.Two months ago I would have laid 20 points higher at 1.37.Result 1st race - lowest traded without winning was 1.22. Result 2nd race - lowest traded without winning was 1.13.

Using £ 100 fixed level liability (although I'm not that high yet!)New method at 1.17 = 388 ((-100) + (588-100=488)).Old 'comfort' method at 1.37 = + 340 (270-100 x 2 races).

£48 is not a lot of difference but then multiplied by the number of races that are held each week in UK/Ireland, makes a considerable difference in the long term.

Actually, I usually split my lay into 3 or 4 parts. anyway e.g. if best lay is 1.17 then, roughly 25% - 1.17, 25% - 1.19 25% - 1.21, 25% - 1.23.

Also, there are often large amounts of say £ 2,000 at 1.20 and my small stakes would sit behind that, so I put in a higher amount say 1.21.

Anyway, I hope all this helps or even though you do not use of 'notes from my journey', might perhaps give you a kernel of an idea to approach your scheme from another view point.

For any other readers, I will not answer any questions as this is horselover's own private thread.

Yesterday result...................

I want to repeat here the match wheer Malek was 5-0 up and the opponent retired.


Tennis: USD291.12 Total P&L: USD291.12

Tennis Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets of 278 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Czink v Petrova : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 22:30 17-Apr-09 01:36 16.59

Tennis / Vesnina v Kutuzova : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 21:45 17-Apr-09 01:34 19.42

Tennis / Peng v Wozniacki : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 20:30 16-Apr-09 22:52 166.69

Tennis / Schiavone v Vaidisova : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 15:30 16-Apr-09 19:01 419.61 Tennis / Beck v Monaco : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 16:30 16-Apr-09 18:50 33.24

Tennis / Errani v Safarova : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 13:00 16-Apr-09 18:35 -876.00

Tennis / Verdasco v Ferrer : Match Odds 16-Apr-09 16:30 16-Apr-09 18:04 511.57


Tennis: -USD3,907.98 Total P&L: -USD3,907.98

Thursday, April 16, 2009

Petrova result.................

Petrova = scratch trade

3rd set

Vesnina result....................

Vesnina = scratch trade

1st set TB

Petrova...................

I backed

Petrova 1.35

Wozniacki....................

Wozniacki = winner

Vesnina .......................

I backed

Vesnina 1.53

Wozniacki .........................

I backed

Wozniacki 1.29

Schiavone result......................

Schiavone = winner

Bolleli....................

I backed

Bolleli 1.73

Errani, Verdasco results...................

Errani = loser :(

Verdasco = winner

Monaco result..........................

Monaco = scratch trade

3rd set

Schiavone.........................

I backed

Schiavone 1.73

Rain again :(

Matches suspended again, but this time standings are

Verdasco 6-2

Monaco 6-3

monaco is still playing

this break can't be good for me :( even they are a set up

wait and see

Monaco.............

I backed

Monaco 1.28

Malek result..................

Malek up 5:0 and opponent retired :(

I just can't believe it after 3 retirements against me.

Verdasco, Malek, Errani.........

I backed

Verdasco 1.89

Malek 1.68

Errani 1.61

today betfair is unavailable till 10:00 BST...

I will miss the match Monaco v Beck , the fav is Monaco with 1.27 this morning before the BF upgrade.

I didn't know that there will be this upgrade, but I saw the price of Verdasco v Ferrer is 1.89 and I got a partly fill and I am sure I will get the fill later. now I can sit and hope that the BF page will be up at 10:00 BST or even before, so I will have a chance to react if I will need to scratch the trade.

Yesterday result..........................

a good start Yesterday, but a bad finish :( again some bad beats.

Tennis: -USD1,501.90 Total P&L: -USD1,501.90

Tennis Showing 1 - 18 of 18 markets of 271 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Peng v Amanmuradova : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 20:45 16-Apr-09 00:16 -13.44

Tennis / Schnyder v Vesnina : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 20:15 16-Apr-09 00:15 48.08

Tennis / Zec Peskiric v Martinez Sanchez : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 18:30 15-Apr-09 22:02 -0.01

Tennis / Dubois v Razzano : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 19:30 15-Apr-09 21:57 143.70

Tennis / King v Czink : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 19:30 15-Apr-09 21:49 287.42

Tennis / Safin v Lapentti : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 15:15 15-Apr-09 20:50 35.96

Tennis / Mattek Sands v Rodionova : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 18:15 15-Apr-09 20:21 25.92

Tennis / Lepchenko v Perry : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 18:15 15-Apr-09 19:57 385.12

Tennis / Kutuzova v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 17:00 15-Apr-09 18:47 -910.78

Tennis / Lisicki v Wienerova : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 17:00 15-Apr-09 18:31 218.42

Tennis / Oudin v Wozniak : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 17:00 15-Apr-09 18:16 -996.00

Tennis / Fognini v Cilic : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 14:00 15-Apr-09 16:19 -936.00

Tennis / Nalbandian v Granollers : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 12:45 15-Apr-09 15:52 0.00

Tennis / Vinci v Pennetta : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 13:15 15-Apr-09 15:39 -600.00

Tennis / Wawrinka v Vassallo Arguello : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 12:00 15-Apr-09 14:55 -17.15

Tennis / Bremond v Kirilenko : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 12:00 15-Apr-09 14:01 189.49

Tennis / Tipsarevic v Bolelli : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 11:30 15-Apr-09 13:24 419.17

Tennis / Verdasco v Kohlschreiber : Match Odds 15-Apr-09 11:30 15-Apr-09 13:08 218.20


Tennis: -USD4,199.10 Total P&L: -USD4,199.10

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Peng result..........................

Peng = scratch trade

3rd set

Vesnina result......................

Vesnina = scratch trade

3rd set

Lepchenko, Razzano, CzinkCzink results...............

Lepchenko = winner

Razzano = winner

Czink = winner

M.Sanchez result..................

M.Sanchez = scratch trade

3rd set terrible match over 3 hours already

Vesnina , Peng .............................

I backed

Vesnina 1.63

Peng 1.31

Czink...............

I backed

Czink 1.50

Razzano ...............................

I backed

Razzano 1.25

Mattek-Sands result.............

Mattek-Sands = scratch trade

A.Bondarenko result........................

A.Bondarenko = loser :(

Lepchenko , M.Sands, M. Sanchez................

I backed

Lepchenko 1.67

M.Sands 1.47

M. Sanchez 1.32

Lisicki result................

Lisicki = winner

Safin result..............

Safin = scratch trade

Wozniak result..........

Wozniak = loser :(

Safin............

I backed

Safin 1.73

A.Bondarenko , Wozniak , Lisicki ...........................

I backed

A.Bondarenko 1.54

Wozniak 1.42

Lisicki 1.38

Cilic result.............

Cilic = loser :(

Pennetta result...................

Pennetta = loser

bad beat!

Nalbandian result..................

Nalbandian = scratch trade

Cilic.............

I backed

Cilic 1.35

Wawrinka result...............

Wawrinka = scratch trade

2nd set

Pennetta....................

I backed

Pennetta 1.34

Kirilenko result.............

Kirilenko = winner

Bolleli, Verdasco results............

Bolleli = winner

Verdasco = winner

Nalbandian.......................

I backed

Nalbandian 1.34

Kirilenko, Wawrinka........................

I backed

Kirilenko 1.33

Wawrinka 1.36

Verdasco , Bolleli..............................

I backed

Verdasco 1.38

Bolleli 1.73

Yesterday result..............................

very bad day for the favourites and me :(


Tennis: -USD1,985.75 Total P&L: -USD1,985.75

Tennis Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets of 253 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Mayr v Petrova : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 20:45 15-Apr-09 00:21 49.77

Tennis / Paszek v Cibulkova : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 19:30 14-Apr-09 22:04 208.46

Tennis / Q v Kudryavtseva : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 19:00 14-Apr-09 21:22 -600.00

Tennis / Safin v Hewitt : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 15:15 14-Apr-09 19:30 -876.00

Tennis / Karlovic v Serra : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 16:00 14-Apr-09 18:16 -786.00

Tennis / Pin v Kirilenko : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 14:30 14-Apr-09 17:51 200.97

Tennis / Lopez v Ferrer : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 14:00 14-Apr-09 17:39 160.78

Tennis / Cirstea v Yakimova : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 14:15 14-Apr-09 17:23 0.00

Tennis / Monaco v Robredo : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 14:45 14-Apr-09 16:41 18.86

Tennis / Nalbandian v Mathieu : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 12:45 14-Apr-09 16:03 220.84

Tennis / Schiavone v Dominguez Lino : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 13:15 14-Apr-09 16:00 4.16

Tennis / Almagro v Montanes : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 12:00 14-Apr-09 14:48 -46.48

Tennis / Fognini v Berdych : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 11:30 14-Apr-09 13:39 58.89

Tennis / Monfils v Tipsarevic : Match Odds 14-Apr-09 11:30 14-Apr-09 12:52 -600.00


Tennis: -USD2,697.20 Total P&L: -USD2,697.20

Tuesday, April 14, 2009

Cibulcova, Petrova results.....................

Cibulkova = winner

Petrova = scratch trade 3rd set

Petrova..............

I backed

Petrova 1.27

Hewitt, Haynes results...............

Hewitt = loser

Haynes = loser missed the scratch :(

Cilbukova, Haynes...................

I backed

Cilbukova 1.36

Haynes 1.80

Serra result...............

Serra = loser :(

Nalbandian,Kirilenko, Ferrer results............

Nalbandian = winner

Kirilenko = winner

Ferrer = winner

Hewitt................

I backed

Hewitt 1.70

Serra...........................

I backed

Serra 1.53

Robredo result...................

Robredo = scratch trade

2nd set

Cristea result..................

Cristea = scratch trade

1set TB

Kirilenko........................

I backed

Kirilenko 1.35

Schiavone result.................

Schiavone = scratch trade

1st set TB Schiavone won the TB

Robredo..............

I backed

Robredo 1.50

Cirstea, Ferrer................................

I backed

Cirstea 1.89

Ferrer 1.28

Almagro result................

Almagro = scratch trade

2nd set 6-7 5-4

Monfils, Berdych results.................

Monfils = loser :(

Berdych = scratch trade

Schiavone ..........................................

I backed


Schiavone 1.37

Nalbandian..............................

I backed

Nalbandian 1.40

Almagro..................

I backed

Almagro 1.31

Berdych, Mofils................

I backed

Berdych 1.29

Monfils 1.25

good example why I put my bets shortly before the start.......

todays match Lisnard v C.Rochus is a good example why I don't like to put my bet early.

Rochus drifted from about 1.6 to almost 6 :(

lets see what is behind and if Rochus will retire.

there are people who put their bets in already a night before :(

A nice posting in my thread in the betfair forum......

Roger OASIS
14 Apr 02:25


Was - 4,000
Then -2,000
2 days ago - 1.300
Now - 600

Great turnaround.Well done Horselover - am pleased as you seem very honest in your posts.

Monday, April 13, 2009

Todays result...................

Tennis: USD633.41 Total P&L: USD633.41

Tennis Showing 1 - 12 of 12 markets of 239 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / N Lapentti v Stepanek : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 15:15 13-Apr-09 21:47 0.00

Tennis / Peng v Pivovaova : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 18:15 13-Apr-09 19:38 258.39

Tennis / Vliegen v Ljubicic : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 14:00 13-Apr-09 19:31 77.95

Tennis / Cipolla v Cilic : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 15:15 13-Apr-09 18:28 292.84

Tennis / Beck v Kiefer : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 14:15 13-Apr-09 18:12 4.07

Tennis / Kvitova v Pennetta : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 15:00 13-Apr-09 17:59 194.89

Tennis / Errani v M Johansson : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 14:45 13-Apr-09 17:33 13.83

Tennis / Chardy v Monaco : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 14:00 13-Apr-09 16:45 241.16

Tennis / Gicquel v Schwank : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 12:45 13-Apr-09 16:43 133.10

Tennis / Acasuso v Granollers : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 13:00 13-Apr-09 15:24 8.33

Tennis / Seppi v Melzer : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 12:45 13-Apr-09 14:43 338.78

Tennis / Benneteau v Hernandez : Match Odds 13-Apr-09 11:30 13-Apr-09 13:21 -929.93


Tennis: -USD711.45 Total P&L: -USD711.45

Peng result...........

Peng = winner

Stepanek result.............

Stepanek = scratch trade

Cilic, Ljubicic results....................

Cilic = winner

Ljubicic = scratch trade 2nd set TB

Peng............

I backed

Peng 1.45

Pennetta result..................

Pennetta = winner

Stepanek..................

I backed

Stepanek 1.44

Errani, Kiefer, Monaco results............

Errani = scratch trade

Kiefer = scratch trade

Monaco = winner

Cilic, Ljubicic, .............

I backed

Cilic 1.51

Ljubicic 1.59

Schwank result....................

Schwank = scratch trade

Monaco ..................

I backed

Monaco 1.42

Pennetta, Errani, Kiefer..............................

I backed

Pennetta 1.36

Kiefer 1.77

Errani 1.28

Seppi, Acasuso results...............

Seppi = winner

Acasuso = scratch trade

Schwank....................

I backed

Schwank 1.86

Benneteau result...........

Benneteau = loser :(

Acasuso..................

I backed

Acasuso 1.40

Seppi.......

I backed

Seppi 1.59

Benneteau...........

I backed

Benneteau 1.60

Yesterday results.........................

Tennis: USD871.50 Total P&L: USD871.50


Tennis Showing 1 - 5 of 5 markets of 227 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)

Tennis / Hewitt v Odesnik : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 22:00 13-Apr-09 01:30 189.49

Tennis / Ferrero v Serra : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 17:30 12-Apr-09 19:16 292.84

Tennis / Soderling v Bolelli : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 14:30 12-Apr-09 17:32 21.79

Tennis / Jankovic v Suarez Navarro : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 14:00 12-Apr-09 16:29 8.29

Tennis / Gulbis v Kohlschreiber : Match Odds 12-Apr-09 13:15 12-Apr-09 15:04 359.09



Tennis: -USD1,344.86 Total P&L: -USD1,344.86

Hewitt result.............

Hewitt = winner